[NFB-Seniors-Discussion] More from Jeff - FW: Jeff reply to Judy - FW: Jeff A question - RE: Another guy wrote - RE: Yes, RE: New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

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Fri Apr 19 12:06:30 UTC 2024


And thank all of you who responded! 

RLN 

 

From: debandjeff at allophone.com <debandjeff at allophone.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 11:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] Jeff reply to Judy - FW: Jeff A question - RE: Another guy wrote - RE: Yes, RE: New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

Hello Robert and Judy,

 

There is one other thing I want to mention about “right turn on red,” that should be considered when crossing at a larger lighted intersection. Trucks, SUV’s,  and other larger vehicles are very common place these days, and there is a very good chance you may be crossing in front of one of these vehicles. 

 

The problem is when you have parallel traffic on your left, if there should be a car on the other side of one of these larger vehicles in the turning lane, that is planning to make a right turn on red, they may not see you until you have stepped out from in front of the larger vehicle. These drivers are suppose to pull up to where they can see the traffic, and stop and wait for the opportunity to pull out, but distracted drivers have been known to roll right into the right turn, risking a collision with an oncoming vehicle that they didn’t see, or a pedestrian crossing the street. 

 

So, when crossing in front of a larger vehicle, pause for a moment to make sure you are clear to continue across that turning lane of the street. I have had a couple of close ones in this sort of situation, and it doesn’t matter who has the “right of way,” if you are the one getting hurt.

 

Jeff

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 9:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] Jeff reply to Judy - FW: Jeff A question - RE: Another guy wrote - RE: Yes, RE: New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

Hi, Jeff, you are exactly right in what you are saying.  I am finding the right-on-reds are pretty much bumper to bumper.

 

One incident to illustrate this.  My guide dog is now retired, but one of the last times I used her, I was with one of the trainers, and we were going to walk to a nearby coffee shop for lunch.  However, at the corner, to cross, the bumper to bumper right-on-reds were prevalent, and after the third no-go light, the trainer was frustrated, not with us and our work, but the traffic, and decided to just drive us where we wanted to go.

 

Regarding transit, I do take fixed route or paratransit, depending on the situation, but I cannot get to the nearest fixed route stop to my home, again, because of traffic.  The para transit can take one into a park and ride, whose fixed routes take one to neighboring areas, or to the station to take the connector buses or Amtrak.  Between para transit and fixed route, we can go pretty much anywhere in the I5 corridor.  Going east is another story, with very limited transit.

 

Judy

 

“Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”

 

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Subject: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] Jeff reply to Judy - FW: Jeff A question - RE: Another guy wrote - RE: Yes, RE: New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

Judy and Others

 

Jeff gives a step by step set of situational lodgic for complex crossings with signals: 

 

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Hello Judy,

 

First of all, I can’t be there to work with you directly, so please remember these are only suggestions, and you will need to draw on your own experience and judgement to make sure these things will work for you.

 

Back when I was first learning to travel, lights were simple, and predictable, and we were taught to start a crossing the moment we heard the parallel traffic start to go. It is not that simple any more. What I have found that tends to work reasonably well is first observing the traffic pattern, to determine whether there is staged light control, that is where turning traffic goes first, and this may take several cycles. You may not think this is necessary with a familiar intersection, but the thing is, these systems get updated, and the new computer controlled lights can be adjusted with a change of software, and some even change during the course of the day, based on traffic flow. 

 

If you observe that there is a turning stage to the light, then I suggest that you wait to the count of three before you start your crossing, so you can observe whether all of the traffic is moving, or only the traffic that is turning. If you hear the main surge of the traffic, and the majority of it is going straight, then you should be good to go. This also still means that most cars will still be moving slow enough that if they turn in on you, they can stop.

 

Then if there is a pedestrian push button, it is important to understand how to insure yourself a walk signal. Don’t push the button when you first arrive at the intersection, but wait for the perpendicular traffic to start going. In almost all situations, this will result in a walk signal the next time the parallel traffic starts to move. If you push it while the parallel traffic is going, you may get what is called a, “Mother may I,” in other words, you may get a walk signal right then, and you won’t get one on the next cycle. Also, if you push the button when the perpendicular traffic is already flowing, if it is late enough in the cycle, you may not get a walk signal when the parallel traffic starts out. 

 

Now, regarding right turn on red. If parallel traffic is on your left, remember to listen for the full serge of parallel traffic to go before you step out. If parallel traffic is on your right, then you have to listen for how close the car to your left is to the edge of the corner, and judge if that driver may be looking for the opportunity to turn. That driver, just like at a stop-sign intersection, is looking for a break in the parallel traffic to pull out. In exactly the same way, listen for a car in the near lane to be approaching the intersection at a steady speed, and start your crossing just before it reaches the far side of the intersection, and so it will block the car to your left from moving. I know this is a lot to think about, but if you take a bit of time, when you don’t have to be in a hurry, and just stand there and listen to the traffic, and practice making the decision as to when you would cross, you will be able to figure it out. If you want a friend to be there with you, that is also familiar with non-visual street crossings, that may make it easier for you, since the two of you can discuss the situation each time, and perhaps help each other to better understand how to do it.

 

I hope this has helped, and you are welcome to follow-up with me if you have additional questions. Again, I’m not there to work with you, and so please be careful, and use your own best judgement if you choose to put these suggestions to work for you.

 

Jeff Altman

 

From: robertleslienewman at gmail.com <mailto:robertleslienewman at gmail.com>  <robertleslienewman at gmail.com <mailto:robertleslienewman at gmail.com> > 
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Subject: Jeff A question - RE: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] Another guy wrote - RE: Yes, RE: New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

Jeff

 

I sent your response to the NFB senior discussion list and a friend of mine responded to your post. And she, Judy, has a travel question for you. Do take a read and get back to her, 

Please and thank you.

 

RLN 

 

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Subject: Re: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] Another guy wrote - RE: Yes, RE: New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

Amen, very well said.  I have been using either a white cane or guide dog since the mid-sixties and been all over, traveling independently and with confidence, thanks to the early instruction I received.

 

I do have a question, though, for people, especially Jeff, and this may require a different subject-line.

 

I find myself, even though a competent traveler, nowadays finding lighted intersections almost impossible to cross, due to all the right-on-reds.  I would love to hear of any newer techniques, if they exist, on dealing with those, plus traveling safely with  quiet cars in the mix.  Oh yes, and the robovehicles.

 

Fortunately, the state of Washington, where I live, is putting the brakes on instant adoption of those.

 

Thanks for any information you can give.  I am currently using a white cane.

 

Judy

 

“Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”

 

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Subject: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] Another guy wrote - RE: Yes, RE: New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

>From the Nebraska senior list: 

>From Jeff Altman, a travel instructor 

Hi Robert,

 

While I haven’t seen the device, nor have I read all of the details, I’m not certain it has all that much more going for it than devices from twenty, thirty or even forty years ago. These devices tend to provide information that tells the user that there is something there, which in some situations can be helpful; however, in general they do not tell the user what that object is. An experienced  cane user that contacts an object with the cane receives both auditory and tactile information that can in many cases be very quickly identified as the characteristics of a particular object. This identification can provide important information regarding orientation, such as the sound of the typical sign pole can tell the blind person that he or she is too close to the street, and needs to turn away from it. A guide dog takes the blind handler around obstacles, but due to intelligent disobedience, can prevent the handler from making a critical error. Even if such a device could tell the user what an object is, could it do it quickly enough to allow it to be really useful. Sure, if it could be used to scan an area, and tell you where specific things are, that could be useful, but I think there are already some apps out there that can help with that, but I don’t think using them on the fly is a very good idea.

 

There are many other reasons that the cane, or a dog continue to be the primary choices of blind people for their personal independent travel, but the most important one is the level of understanding of the environment that they provide, or the partnership with a dog that help them to have the confidence to travel independently. I don’t see this device, anymore than those that came before it, as being a better answer, or even all that particularly useful as an addition To the cane or dog.

 

Yes, we need to keep an open mind with regard to technology, but those that are attempting to develop these things really need to have blind folks that know how to travel very much at the center of their efforts.

 

 

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Subject: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] Yes, need cane too! - RE: New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

Judy

 

First, I do not like the look of this gadget! If some day it could be…, more discreet in terms what people would see. Like being built in a vest, shirt or jacket. Or have the  component that sends out the beam or signal or whatever it is called, be niniaturized, as in a button size component. A burger size bun is weird looking if that unit is outside your shirt.

 

 

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Subject: Re: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

Hi,

 

I can see where one would need to use the white cane with most, if not, all of these high-tech devices.  Sounds interesting.

 

Judy

 

“Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”

 

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Subject: [NFB-Seniors-Discussion] New travel aid - what do you think - FW: [Tech-VI] CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind

 

Hi You All

 

I mostly like what this device can tell you, but…

 

What do you think?

 

RLN

 

 

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Podfeet Podcasts - Thursday, March 21, 2024, 12:13 PM


CSUN 2024: Strap Tech Ara Wearable Mobility Device for the Blind




Allison interviews Javier De Leon from Strap Tech about Ara, their wearable smart device developed for the blind and visually impaired to move faster and safer in everyday life.

Ara is worn on the chest facing outward and has straps around the waist and over the shoulders to keep it in place. About the size of a hamburger bun, the device contains an array of advanced sensors to detect obstacles in the user’s path as they walk.

Ara provides accurate and timely alerts through haptic vibration patterns felt through the straps. Vibrations felt in the shoulder straps indicate an obstacle above the waist while vibrations in the waist straps indicate an obstacle below the waist. Vibrations in shoulder and waist straps mean a large obstacle, such as a wall, is ahead. When the user feels these vibrations, they turn until the vibration stops and continue their walk to avoid the obstacle.

Although Ara can be used on a stand-alone basis, it also has a mode for seamless integration with traditional mobility aids like white canes, guide dogs, or loved ones. Learning to use Ara is straightforward and intuitive.

Ara has a battery life of one full day and a smart on/off mode which automatically powers down the device if the user remains stationary for an extended period or takes a seat. Upon resuming the walk, Ara automatically powers back up.

Learn more at https://strap.tech/

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