[NFB-Seniors-Discussion] APP to assist checking your makeup! - Has people with visual impairment in mind

Thu Jan 11 16:40:12 UTC 2024

The only positive I see is that if someone was new to putting make-up on as a blind person and had no one to help them, the ap might be useful when they’re first trying things. One would think after they got positive feedback several times, they’d stop using the ap. Let’s hope so.

Jan

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Like you, Judy, I did my own makeup for years, and I did not have a sighted person check it every time. I did do eye liner, mascara, and the whole bit. In the 90s, I worked for Nordstrom, a very upscale department store where women were required to wear makeup. Nobody every complained about mine, and they would have taken me aside if there’d been a problem. I am totally blind and have been since age five. I had someone I trusted teach me how to apply makeup and never had a problem.

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Hi, Robert,

I have mixed feelings on this one.

As an older woman who used to wear makeup much more as a younger person, any of us women who were around before all our technology know we can successfully blend and use makeup quite successfully without sighted help, after the initial consult on right shading and such.

I never wore eye makeup, as with retinopathy of prematurity, in my case, the lenses are cloudy, but I do have blue eyes & have dark lashes and brows. Not bad, but nothing I want to highlight.

The closer one's foundation comes to the natural color, as it should, the easier to blend in.

When looking at this e-mail, and possibly its advertising, it gives the impression a blind person cannot possibly apply any makeup without either sighted assistance, or the blessed AI assistance.  This couldn't be farther from the truth.

Same for applying lipstick Apply following the lip line & blot with a tissue.

People with oily skin should use a facial tissue at some point during the day to gently wipe away any access oil. 

Back in the day, I used to carry a compact with a puff to touch up the face.

Anything else applied like rouge or blush, done conservatively, is no problem.

This makeup thing is no big deal at all for blind women, and sorry to see the hyp in this advertisement.

Nonetheless, I really appreciate you posting, as it is nice to know what is out there and to apply it in a way that can work for us.

Judy
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 7:41 AM RobertLeslie Newman via NFB-Seniors-Discussion <nfb-seniors-discussion at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfb-seniors-discussion at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

Hi You All

RE: Not that I’m looking for this type of assist for me…

Check this out. You tell me if this is trustworthy; hope it works good!  

Disability:IN - Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:45 AM

Cosmopolitan: Meet VMA: The App That’s Going to Forever Change How Blind People Do Their Makeup

Voice-enabled Makeup Assistant is here—and Cosmo chatted with four of the app’s users.

For those with low-vision or blindness, putting on makeup is typically a two-person job. Sure, you can learn to dab on concealer <https://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/beauty/g37482918/best-concealers-reviews/>  or blend out your Drunk Elephant Bronzing Drops <https://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/beauty/g45530717/best-drunk-elephant-bronzing-drops-dupes/>  with a couple of #GetReadyWithMe TikToks (that is, if the creator talks out their steps versus just overlaying an ~aesthetic~ Mitski song or “My BFF dated my ex” story time). But to make sure your foundation <https://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/g3849028/best-full-coverage-foundation/>  is fully blended and your eyeliner <https://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/beauty/g25643335/best-eyeliner/>  isn’t smudged, you’re likely going to need to ask someone for help—whether it be a family member, friend, or literal stranger—and just hope they give you an honest answer. This is obviously less than ideal, and it gave Estée Lauder Companies an idea: Voice-enabled Makeup Assistant (VMA), a voice-enabled app to help people with vision loss and blindness check their makeup application.

“We identified that there was a huge accessibility gap in the beauty industry for those with disabilities, specifically for individuals who are low vision and blind,” says Lamia Drew, global inclusive technology director at Estée Lauder Companies. So after years of research, interviews, and testing done in tandem with people in the low-vision and blind communities, Estée Lauder launched VMA in January 2023. “Many people told us that when they put on makeup, they would have to send a selfie to a person that they trusted to give them honest feedback,” Drew explains. “The consistent theme really was that many people in this community felt like their makeup routine created a dependence on others and we want VMA to change that.”

Hannah Chadwick

I strive to be as independent as I can with everything that I do. So when I got the chance to help develop this app all the way in Colorado Springs, Colorado, I was so excited. It’s super incredible to just have something like this out there. A real game changer.

I think back to when I was in high school and first became interested in makeup. I’d experiment, but certain products like lipstick were challenging. Overall, the hardest part of makeup for me is that I’d have to get people to check it every single time. The older I get, the less I care about it, but when I was younger, I was so easily embarrassed, so I would never want to go out with weird, blotchy makeup. I just remember spending so much time in the bathroom doing my makeup, and then getting frustrated and just asking someone else to do it. Ultimately, makeup was time-consuming and deflating, and I felt like I just couldn’t do it myself. That was something that really bothered me. It felt like it went against my entire definition of independence.

https://disabilityin.org/in-the-news/cosmopolitan-voice-enabled-makeup-assistant-vma-app/?utm_source=rss <https://disabilityin.org/in-the-news/cosmopolitan-voice-enabled-makeup-assistant-vma-app/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=cosmopolitan-voice-enabled-makeup-assistant-vma-app> &utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=cosmopolitan-voice-enabled-makeup-assistant-vma-app

David Goldfield,

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