[nfb-talk] Losing DVS

John G. Heim jheim at math.wisc.edu
Thu Jan 15 17:42:43 UTC 2009


Exactly!

The National Federation of the Blind -- note the word "blind" in the name --  
aligned itself withTV producers to overturn a FCC regulation that would have 
meant that I'd still have DVS.  I lost my access to DVS because the NFB 
doesn't think it should be mandatory.

Thanks NFB.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
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> It's only your *OPINION* though that DVS should be mandatory.  You are 
> just mad because the NFB doesn't share your opinion.  Let's be honest 
> about it.
>
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> In Christ,
> Alan
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 08:47
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Losing DVS
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>
>> Every time I criticize the NFB, all you people want to do is make it 
>> about
>> me. Well, as usual, I'm not going to allow that. This is not about me.  I 
>> am
>> going to discuss the issue whether you like it or not!
>>
>> I already provided a URL for a page that quotes the TV and movie 
>> producers
>> using the NFB's own statements in it's legal argument.  These are 
>> *facts*.
>> If you don't like them, too bad.
>>
>> The NFB made a mistake in opposing the mandate for DVS. If the mandate 
>> had
>> continued, I'd have DVS on my digital broadcast today. Now, the best you 
>> can
>> do is argue that the mandate would have been over turned regardless of 
>> what
>> the NFB did. Yet the fact remains that the NFB opposed the mandate and
>> almost certainly contributed to it being over turned.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>> To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Losing DVS
>>
>>
>>> Ray,
>>>
>>> You're wasting your breath on this score.  The party line held by some
>>> organizations is that we oppose DVS, and anyone who stops supporting DVS
>>> does so because of us.  You've been baited.
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:50:39PM -0600, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>>>>With all due respect, sir, you are wrong.  Before explaining why, let me
>>>>suggest that you correct your own misinformation by reading all we have 
>>>>to
>>>>say on the subject in the various Braille Monitors now available on our
>>>>site.  Maybe instead of spouting off in impulsive and emotional 
>>>>irrational
>>>>anger, you should better aquaint yourself with what we really said 
>>>>first.
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
>>>>
>>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad 
>>>>you
>>>>come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
>>>>land"
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