[nfb-talk] Losing DVS

[John G. Heim]

I don't consider listening to Nova, The American Experience, and Nature time 
wasted.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tribble" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Losing DVS


> Hello John -- well, perhaps you should consider thanking the nfb for
> reducing the amount of time you spend listening to the television.  I know 
> I
> sometimes spend too much time there, dvs or not.
> Just a thought.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Losing DVS
>
>
> Every time I criticize the NFB, all you people want to do is make it about
> me. Well, as usual, I'm not going to allow that. This is not about me.  I 
> am
> going to discuss the issue whether you like it or not!
>
> I already provided a URL for a page that quotes the TV and movie producers
> using the NFB's own statements in it's legal argument.  These are *facts*.
> If you don't like them, too bad.
>
> The NFB made a mistake in opposing the mandate for DVS. If the mandate had
> continued, I'd have DVS on my digital broadcast today. Now, the best you 
> can
> do is argue that the mandate would have been over turned regardless of 
> what
> the NFB did. Yet the fact remains that the NFB opposed the mandate and
> almost certainly contributed to it being over turned.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
> To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Losing DVS
>
>
>> Ray,
>>
>> You're wasting your breath on this score.  The party line held by some
>> organizations is that we oppose DVS, and anyone who stops supporting DVS
>> does so because of us.  You've been baited.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:50:39PM -0600, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>>>With all due respect, sir, you are wrong.  Before explaining why, let me
>>>suggest that you correct your own misinformation by reading all we have 
>>>to
>>>say on the subject in the various Braille Monitors now available on our
>>>site.  Maybe instead of spouting off in impulsive and emotional 
>>>irrational
>>>anger, you should better aquaint yourself with what we really said first.
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
>>>
>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad you
>>>come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
>>>land"
>>>George Seferis
>>>
>>>Phone or Fax::
>>>+1 (985) 360-3375
>>>e-mail:
>>>rforetjratcomcastdotnet
>>>Skype Name:
>>>barefootedray
>>
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