[nfb-talk] [SPAM] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 9, Issue 33

Phil Templet ptemplet at lsvi.org
Mon Mar 2 13:15:45 UTC 2009


Hi Eddie:

I am in total support of your efforts. I have been trying to bring attention to this matter for awhile. I would like to have an offline talk with you. Please send me your contact information at pjtemplet at cox.net.


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Today's Topics:

   1. Proposal to Decrease the Blind Unemployment Rate (Eddie)
   2. Re: Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the Blind (d m gina)
   3. Re: big discount on the NFBO Cruise (Sherri)
   4. Re: Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the Blind
      (Cindy Handel)
   5. Re: Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the  Blind
      (David Andrews)
   6. Re: Proposal to Decrease the Blind Unemployment Rate (Eddie)
   7. Re: Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the Blind (d m gina)
   8. Assisting the March for Independence in Detroit (Bowman,  Kristi)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:22:41 -0700
From: "Eddie" <jazzdogg1 at comcast.net>
Subject: [nfb-talk] Proposal to Decrease the Blind Unemployment Rate
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
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Dear List Members,

I would like to propose an as yet very general outline on how to improve the unemployment numbers in the blindness community. I am open to suggestions

on how this may play out in actuality.

We have heard the 70 percent unemployment statistic for the last 30 years with little or no fluctuation. I propose a capital campaign not unlike the one

initiated to build the Jernigan Institute. The funds raised by this effort would be exclusively used to purchase access technology for blind job seekers,

effectively bypassing the red tape often experienced with state departments of rehabilitation and other governmental employment agencies. We know that

employers are extremely hesitant to hire people with disabilities due to the perceived expenses involved in doing so. This would affectively nullify that

concern while demonstrating that we are some of the most dedicated and loyal workers once we obtain gainful employment. Perhaps funds for this project

could be incorporated under the umbrella of the imagination fund. While some may argue that this effectively turns the NFB into a rehab agency, I posit

that we could do this kind of work as we have undertaken every other project--with a high level of standards and expectation for our members, along with

a positive philosophy of blindness. Please respond with ideas and thoughts.

Sincerely,

Eddie Salcido


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:51:21 -0500
From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the
        Blind
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Hi there
I don't want to go out into the community and work,
I would like to work from home.
One of the problems i see with this, so far as I read about different
jobs, is they want money up front.
When this happens, I feel that it is a scam.
Do others of you find the same thing?
I just would want part time, not full time until I would see the job
moving rite along.
then I could also take care of the home needs.
If anyone has tips please share.
There is no way that I could afford to support anyone at this time,
just trying to do it for myself is a challenge.

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--Dar
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:17:19 -0500
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] big discount on the NFBO Cruise
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
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Thank you. Sounds terrific. I'll see what I can do.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Hathaway" <jerry.hathaway2 at verizon.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] big discount on the NFBO Cruise


> Sherri here is the information about the cruise.
>
>
>
>
> NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
>
> OF OREGON
>
> ALASKA CRUISE BENEFIT
>
> SEPTEMBER 5 - 12, 2009
>
>
>
> *** Seven-night Alaska cruise aboard the beautiful Norwegian
>
> Cruise Line Star --- all-you-can-eat food with 11 restaurant choices and
> 24-hour room service; top-notch, nightly entertainment, including
> elaborate
> Broadway-style productions, comedians, concerts, etc.; state-of-the-art
> spa
> facilities; variety of activities for all ages, as well as an abundance of
> quiet areas to relax
>
>
>
> *** Exciting Alaska itinerary highlighting spectacular glaciers
>
> that are so close you can hear ice breaking into the water; 7,000 foot
> high
> snowcapped mountains, which drop immediately to sea level; fresh,
> saltwater,
> crisp air; wildlife - whales, hundreds of seals, bear, moose; an
> opportunity
> to ride the White Pass and Yukon Railroad, a historic railway operated
> during the Gold Rush era and offers an unforgettable scenic train trip
> over
> the White Pass
>
>
>
> SPECIAL PROMOTIONS
>
> *** The National Federation of the Blind of Oregon (NFBO) will
>
>      receive a donation of $100 per cabin booked!
>
>
>
> *** For every 8th cabin booked, the NFBO will receive a bonus
>
> donation of a minimum of $634.
>
>
>
> *** Everyone will receive $50 onboard credit (per cabin; offered
>
> when the group reaches 8 booked cabins)
>
>
>
> *** $20 discount per person for the first 5 Inside Cabins booked
>
>      by March 1, 2009
>
>
>
>
>
> ITINERARY
>
>
>
>
>
> DATE                              PORT
> ARRIVE         DEPART
>
> Sat, Sept 5                      Seattle, Washington
> 4:00pm
>
> Sun, Sept 6                    Inside Passage (Cruising)
>
> Mon, Sept 7 (Labor Day) Ketchikan, Alaska             7:00am
> 3:00pm
>
> Tues, Sept 8                   Juneau, Alaska
> 7:00am           1:30pm
>
>                                        Sawyer Glacier (Cruising)
>
> Wed, Sept 9                   Skagway
> 7:00am           5:00pm
>
> Thurs, Sept 10                Prince Rupert, BC, Canada        4:00pm
> 10:00pm
>
> Fri, Sept 11                     At Sea
>
> Sat, Sept 12                   Seattle, Washington
> 8:00am
>
>
>
> A deposit of $275 per person is required to guarantee your space on this
> cruise.  This deposit, minus a $25 per person cancellation penalty, is
> REFUNDABLE until June 5, 2009, which is when the final payment is due.
>
>
>
>
> Contact Kim Howell with Travelfax
>
> 1-800-480-7405 or email- kim at travelfax.biz
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] big discount on the NFBO Cruise
>
>
>> erry, could you tell me more about the cruise? I'm in Florida. When does
>> it
>> leave? When does it get back? Thanks.
>>
>> SignatureSherri Flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>
>> Original Message -----
>> From: "Jerry Hathaway" <jerry.hathaway2 at verizon.net>
>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:25 PM
>> Subject: [nfb-talk] big discount on the NFBO Cruise
>>
>>
>>> NFBO Cruise News
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because of Norwegian's promotions that are being offered right now, I
>>> was
>>> able to re-negotiate our group cruise rates.  Norwegian discounted all
>>> the
>>> cabin categories and gave us an even bigger discount on the inside
>>> rooms!
>>> Here are the new rates:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Inside Cabin * = $434 + tax per person (This is $220 per person less
>>> than
>>> before!)
>>>
>>> Ocean View Cabin = $774 + tax per person
>>>
>>> Balcony Cabin = $1,134 + tax per person
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * I am still offering a discount of $20 off per person for the first 5
>>> inside cabins booked by March 1, 2009!  That will give you a rate of
>>> only
>>> $414 + tax per person for these 5 cabins, but it needs to be booked by
>>> March 1, 2009!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, for whoever books by March 13th, an on-board credit of up to $75
>>> will be offered.  For those who are interested in having 3 or 4 people
>>> in
>>> a cabin, the 3rd and 4th person rates are only $99 + tax per person on
>>> ANY
>>> category!!!  This special rate on the 3rd & 4th person will also expire
>>> March 13, 2009.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wanted to also let you know that dog liter boxes are also available to
>>> have in the cabin, upon request, for those who are bringing their sight
>>> dogs.  The cruise line is limited on their supply and should be reserved
>>> as soon as possible, but these boxes would be really nice to have in the
>>> cabin to avoid having to go to a different deck for the relief sight.  I
>>> recommend booking a balcony cabin if someone were planning on having
>>> their
>>> dogs with them --- the rooms are bigger, and then there would be plenty
>>> of
>>> room for the liter box.  The cruise line would then empty the boxes on a
>>> daily basis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another bit of information I wanted to point out, I have started a list
>>> of
>>> "single" travelers that would like to go if matched up with a roommate.
>>> So far I have one female and one male looking for a roommate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Help get the word out --- these are fantastic rates to a destination
>>> that
>>> normally does not come down in price!  Even with these incredible
>>> prices,
>>> the NFBO will still receive $100 per cabin booked and will receive a
>>> bonus
>>> donation for every 8th cabin booked.  Remember, only $275 per person is
>>> all that is needed to reserve a cabin; and all but $25 per person is
>>> refunded if canceled prior to June 5, 2009 (the final due date).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, again!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kim Howell
>>>
>>> Travelfax
>>>
>>> 503-743-3915 or 800-480-7405
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:42:47 -0500
From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the
        Blind
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <11924593428C432FADBE1FDCCD66A0D0 at cindy2e65cf610>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Dar, I think you're right about the work at home offers.  They're usually
scams.  It seems, unless you have a career where they allow you to work at
home, just finding a job working from your home is pretty difficult.

Cindy
----- Original Message -----
From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the Blind


Hi there
I don't want to go out into the community and work,
I would like to work from home.
One of the problems i see with this, so far as I read about different
jobs, is they want money up front.
When this happens, I feel that it is a scam.
Do others of you find the same thing?
I just would want part time, not full time until I would see the job
moving rite along.
then I could also take care of the home needs.
If anyone has tips please share.
There is no way that I could afford to support anyone at this time,
just trying to do it for myself is a challenge.

--
--Dar
every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:59:08 -0600
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the
        Blind
To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
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Eddie:

We certainly need ideas and discussion about how to lessen the
unemployment rate for blind persons.  Your idea might help some, but
I don't think it gets at the real causes of the problem.  The problem
isn't getting technology into the hands of the job seeker, it is the
attitudinal barriers against hiring the blind that the sighted public
holds.  Simply put we can't find that many jobs and job sites where
people are willing to give blind guys a chance.  We also need more
work in finding ways and developing  technologies to make different
kinds of job tasks accessible.  Finally, I have observed that many
blind persons who are looking for work just don't have strong enough
computer skills.  Providing them with technology more easily might
help some, but the main problem is training.

Dave

At 09:13 AM 2/27/2009, you wrote:
>Dear List Members,
>I would like to propose an as yet very general outline on how to
>improve the unemployment numbers in the blindness community.  I am
>open to suggestions on how this may play out in actuality.
>
>We have heard the 70 percent unemployment statistic for the last 30
>years with little or no fluctuation.  I propose a capital campaign
>not unlike the one initiated to build the Jernigan Institute.  The
>funds raised by this effort would be exclusively used to purchase
>access technology for blind job seekers, effectively bypassing the
>red tape often experienced with state departments of rehabilitation
>and other governmental employment agencies.  We know that employers
>are extremely hesitant to hire people with disabilities due to the
>perceived expenses involved in doing so.  This would affectively
>nullify that concern while demonstrating that we are some of the
>most dedicated and loyal workers once we obtain gainful
>employment.  Perhaps funds for this project could be incorporated
>under the umbrella of the imagination fund.  While some may argue
>that this effectively turns the NFB into a rehab agency, I posit
>that we could do this kind of work as we have undertaken every other
>project--with a high level of standards and expectation for our
>members, along with a positive philosophy of blindness. Please
>respond with ideas and thoughts.
>Sincerely,
>Eddie Salcido
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>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:31:27 -0700
From: "Eddie" <jazzdogg1 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Proposal to Decrease the Blind Unemployment
        Rate
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <0BE3556A777C4814A5B8B9E16E494A9A at ownere37021f8b>
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I apologize for the duplicate message.  The first one didn't come through
right away.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eddie" <jazzdogg1 at comcast.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: [nfb-talk] Proposal to Decrease the Blind Unemployment Rate


> Dear List Members,
>
> I would like to propose an as yet very general outline on how to improve
> the unemployment numbers in the blindness community. I am open to
> suggestions
>
> on how this may play out in actuality.
>
> We have heard the 70 percent unemployment statistic for the last 30 years
> with little or no fluctuation. I propose a capital campaign not unlike the
> one
>
> initiated to build the Jernigan Institute. The funds raised by this effort
> would be exclusively used to purchase access technology for blind job
> seekers,
>
> effectively bypassing the red tape often experienced with state
> departments of rehabilitation and other governmental employment agencies.
> We know that
>
> employers are extremely hesitant to hire people with disabilities due to
> the perceived expenses involved in doing so. This would affectively
> nullify that
>
> concern while demonstrating that we are some of the most dedicated and
> loyal workers once we obtain gainful employment. Perhaps funds for this
> project
>
> could be incorporated under the umbrella of the imagination fund. While
> some may argue that this effectively turns the NFB into a rehab agency, I
> posit
>
> that we could do this kind of work as we have undertaken every other
> project--with a high level of standards and expectation for our members,
> along with
>
> a positive philosophy of blindness. Please respond with ideas and
> thoughts.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eddie Salcido
> _______________________________________________
> nfb-talk mailing list
> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org




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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:47:12 -0500
From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Proposal to Decrease Unemployment Among the
        Blind
To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
Message-ID: <20090227204712.15757.24537 at web1.serotek.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"

I know many sighted working from home, I just haven't asked if they got
their jobs from the internet or not.
I just feel if they can do it we should be able to do the same thing.

--
--Dar
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every sinner has a future

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:52:32 -0600
From: "Bowman,  Kristi" <KBowman at nfb.org> (by way of David Andrews
        <dandrews at visi.com>)
Subject: [nfb-talk] Assisting the March for Independence in Detroit
To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
Message-ID: <auto-000090801705 at mailfront2.g2host.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed

Greetings:

Do you have a friend, business associate, old
high school buddy, or family member in the
Detroit metro area? If you do, please let me know
about them. As we approach our national
convention in Detroit, we are again working to
make our annual March for Independence ? A Walk
for Opportunity an extraordinary success. One of
the ways we have found to be very effective is to
seek the support of local political, community,
civic, and corporate leaders. Our Michigan
affiliate is already working hard to do this.
Noor Allain, Kristi Bowman, and myself are also
spending time in Detroit. We are still developing
the route, we are still seeking community leaders
to serve as co-chairs for the event, we are
looking for imaginative ideas to make the event
empowering and distinctive, and we are seeking
financial sponsors. So search your memories. If
you have an uncle who is a marketing director, a
cousin who works for traffic engineering, a
friend of a friend who is the president of the
downtown Lions Club, and so on and so forth.
Please let me know. No idea is too silly. Some
won't work out, but I'd rather have them. Send me
an e-mail please or call my office at (866)
543-6808. We will be in Detroit next week,
working with our Michigan affiliate leadership,
the Chamber of Commerce, the Convention and
Visitors Bureau, and others. Thank you and stay imagining.

At Your Service,

Kevan Worley
CEO,Worley Enterprises
kevanworley at blindmerchants.org

(866) 543-6808




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