[nfb-talk] Blind baseball player "hears" his dreamcometrueon local Little League team

Wed May 13 18:59:00 UTC 2009

I'd love to hear how you think he's going to hit grand slams.  I agree he
should have been doing more than just sitting on the bench, but lets be
realistic.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Hello John and listers,
>
>    He'd be a far better mascot if he was hitting grand slams and helping
> his team win rather than just sitting around.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> To: "tribble" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind baseball player "hears" his dreamcometrueon
> local Little League team
>
>
> I agree to a point. I don't want to play mascot either.  But at the same
> time, I wouldn't criticize someone who did. I'm not saying you are
> criticizing this kid for playing mascot. I'm just saying that if he wants
> to, that's fine by me.
>
> Probably the best point to be made here is that while having a dream of
> being on a baseball team in any capacity is fine, maybe if he were given
> more information and more options, his asperations would be a little
> higher.
>
> I guess what I'm saying is that while its important to show tolerance for
> what the boy is doing, itsalso important to make sure he knows this is not
> all he can do.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind baseball player "hears" his dream cometrueon
> local Little League team
>
>
> >I wasn't going to enter this thread but couldn't help mentioning one motto
> >I
> > used while working -- "I don't want to play mascot".
> > People are sometimes so anxious to grab a token minority person as a
> > member
> > of their group -- whether it's a sports team or a job or whatever, that
> > they
> > don't consider that that person may have talents and abilities to do more
> > than just be a token.
> > The little boy was popular in this role because he had a positive
> attitude
> > that was infectuous -- but what if he is able to do something that would
> > compete with another sighted team member? How long is he going to be
> happy
> > doing nothing but act positive?
> > When I was a software developer there were times when things went very
> > smoothely and I fit in well, but other times when I got into conflicts of
> > interest with other group members. In particular, I once was slated to
> > address a large group of persons to introduce some project I was working
> > on.
> > The auditorium was not accessible but was the only space available right
> > then. My boss turned and asked a fellow group member to carry my
> > wheelchair
> > down the stairs (with me in it) so I could give the talk. The employee
> > objected and said that wasn't in his job description.  I also didn't want
> > him to do it as it is rather terrifying to go down a flight of stairs in
> a
> > wheelchair with only one person in control.  And I especially didn't want
> > to
> > impose on the other employee to do something he didn't want to do.  I
> gave
> > my notes to someone else and they gave the talk. My boss was rather
> > annoyed
> > that I did this but I felt it was the right thing.
> > Anyway, that is a negative example, and there were also positive
> > experiences, where people worked in harmony and complemented each others
> > contributions.
> > Anyway, off soapbox for the time being.
> > One of these days I'd like a thread about working in a sighted
> > environment -- and if some of you are also rollers (in wheelchairs),
> > there's
> > that issue too.  Also if anyone knows about any technical job openings
> > that
> > can be done from home, feel free to send it (private to me...*smile*...)
> > TIA and have a great week.
> > --le
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bullis" <mabullis at hotmail.com>
> > To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind baseball player "hears" his dream come
> > trueon
> > local Little League team
> >
> >
> > Well, I might agree with you if the kid were actually doing something.
> > But,
> > he's not.  He's not even taking care of the bats or balls, towels?  He
> > can't
> > even throw the ball to the catcher but he's called a "team manager."
> > The disturbing thing about this to me is that he's being lied to as
> though
> > he were actually contributing something of value when he's not.
> >
> > It seems to me that this is political correctness at it's worst.  The
> > Little
> > League coach should have said yes when asked by the little boy for an
> > opportunity, but, they then should have figured out something for him to
> > do
> > besides look cute.  To give him the title of "Manager" only compounds the
> > issue for me.
> > And, sadly for his mom, there is apparently little or nothing going on
> for
> > this kid so just sitting on the bench is the high point of his life.
> > Mike Bullis
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> On
> > Behalf Of d m gina
> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:59 AM
> > To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind baseball player "hears" his dream come true
> > on
> > local Little League team
> >
> > Even though the mom needs more help with what can happen for the blind, I
> > admire the team for taking this child on, and giving him a thrill of his
> > life.
> > Not to many coachs would do this.
> > That is a mild stone itself.
> > I hope as this child grows he can stay with the team and help others.
> >
> > --
> > --Dar
> > every saint has a past
> > every sinner has a future
> >
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