[nfb-talk] Extra Tax Exemption

[T. Joseph Carter]

Laura, the difference is that you DID need the accommodation.  The 
school individualized what they did to your needs.  That is how it 
should be done.

Thanks for sharing!

Joseph


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 02:27:13PM -0500, qubit wrote:
>This reminds me of something that I almost forgot -- the semester I was an
>exchange student in Hawaii.  I brought my wheelchair in case I needed it,
>but the biggest article was my old fashioned large CCTV -- one of those with
>the huge monitor and separate camera over the sliding table. Now we arrived
>in Hawaii at 3am on a rainy night and rode to the dorms where they were
>ready to greet us.  I went in and the dorm consisted of 1 large room
>sectioned out into 8 cubicals by curtains, each containing a bed, desk the
>size of one book, and shelves for clothing.  I remember lying in bed trying
>to cry silently as I didn't know what I had gotten myself into.  Then the
>next day I talked to the human services office and they got me a double room
>with a large desk and came and moved my stuff.
>Now that was a great accomodation!  Much relief.
>If all students could be so accomodated. A lot of stress would be
>eliminated.
>--le
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:21 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Extra Tax Exemption
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>Asking for an accomodation should never be looked upon as a compromise.
>There is a subtle but important difference between asking for an
>accomodation and letting people do things for you. Anything you can do for
>yourself, you should do even if it means you need to ask for an
>accomodation. But you should never be ashamed to ask for an accomodation.
>
>Wow, I'm so glad this came up. I've been struggling for years to put the
>above concept into words. This morning, the words just came.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
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>Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:52 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Extra Tax Exemption
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>>I would have to agree. I think that at times we spend too much time as
>>blind people trying to prove our independence when we need to just do what
>>we need to do. If it is more convenient and appropriate to use a
>>convenience then do it and let it be an individual choice. When I was in
>>college I had single dorm rooms because I took heavy course loads and did
>>most of my studying during the night as I worked two part time jobs and
>>required much additional storage space for tapes--reel to reel in those
>>days. so it was more convenient and less disruptive to other people.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Extra Tax Exemption
>>
>>
>>> My opinion, generally unasked-for though it may be, is that we worry
>>> sometimes far too much about what people might think if they see
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Over on the NABS list, someone asked about the notion that she might need
>>> a single dorm room for herself.  The immediate response from the list was
>>> that she must at all costs refuse this on the grounds that she should not
>>> wish to be seen as needing something.
>>>
>>> How insecure in oneself must one be to constantly assume that something
>>> as simple as asking for more than half a shoebox as a living arrangement
>>> somehow connotes inferiority? I gave the most logical advice I could:  If
>>> you want a roommate, do not allow the school to isolate you.  If you
>>> don't, ask for a single.  If someone asks if it's for your disability,
>>> answer honestly that it is simply your preference.
>>>
>>> Being a bit older than the average undergraduate, not a small person, and
>>> having more possessions than comfortably fit in half a shoebox, I greatly
>>> valued my single room.  I paid for the privilege, as did half of the
>>> students on my floor.  I did move eventually into a graduate student
>>> apartment, which required special approval, but the request was based on
>>> age and personality, not disability.
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:49:18PM -0700, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>>In my experience I have never heard or run across any negative feelings
>>>>about it on the part of society as a whole. The benefits of it for
>>>>idnividuals outweigh any alleged unproven detriments as a whole.
>>>>Chuck
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