[nfb-talk] Fw: DVS accessibility

[qubit]

It's a very old list devoted to technology and the blind. There is a wide 
variety of persons on it, from deaf-blind to interested sighted persons. 
Most of them still use shell accounts, but they also talk a little about 
windows and mac.
I subscribed many years ago when I was involved in fixing bugs in the lynx 
web browser.  There are people still using that browser, even though it 
still doesn't do javascript.
There are other text browsers that do handle javascript.
It is a good list to join if you want a wider view of the blind computing 
population.
HTH
--le

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What is the Blind-L list?
Chuck
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:00 PM
Subject: [nfb-talk] Fw: DVS accessibility


> Here's some info from the blind-l list for anyone interested.
> I was thinking there should be a way to make the DVS broadcast less ad hoc
> and more prevalent.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at YAHOO.COM>
> To: <BLIND-L at LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: DVS accessibility
>
>
> Hi Larry --
> Thanks for the retrospective.  If you don't mind I want to forward it to
> the
> nfb-talk list.
> As for SAP on cable and satellite, since nowadays they provide things like
> movies on demand and pay-per-view, it is possible in theory to get the DVS
> track played when they broadcast.  On the regular network programming, you
> have those blasted on screen menus to bring up SAP -- and of course it is
> never at the top of a menu but 4 items down.
> Also, they have to be broadcasting DVS on that channel for the SAP to
> access
> it.  (Obvious, but on the movies-on-demand you can tailor your viewing any
> way you want.)
> Happy listening all.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hart Larry" <chime at HUBERT-HUMPHREY.COM>
> To: <BLIND-L at LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: DVS accessibility
>
>
> OK, an extremely interesting topic.  Replying with comments for Karen,
> Gene,
> and Laura.
> First some background.  Around 1984 when Stereo TV became available, there
> was
> only 1 SAP channel per station-and-it was only 10KHZ audio-and-only mono.
> Around late 1986 Cable companies began installing stereo modulators at
> around
> $8000
> In 1996 I got Direct-TV-and-certainly enjoyed having easy access to SAP.
> It
> was 1 button on the remote which like earlier TVs would toggle among
> main-and-SAP.  In the case of Bloomberg TV, they offered an audio service
> with
> news on the hour, but also their 1130 AM station in NYC.  So they had 2
> SAPS.
> Several years later I switched to Dish Network--and yes its more
> complicated
> to
> switch to SAP, as its not on the fly, per channel, all channels are
> switched.
> There are maybe 5 or 6 languages.  For awhile I left the receiver in that
> mode,
> but at that time I had an ABC station in Atlanta, with no audio much of
> the
> time on its SAP on Dish.
> Over the years manufacturers made it much harder to access SAP, as many
> folks
> would not know how to get back to regular audio.  In some cases such as
> Washington DC and San Diego, the NBC station was running NOAA weather
> Radio,
> eventually specialized uses quieted down because of that type of
> confusion.
> Now in today's envirenment depending on an amount of picture quality and
> bandwidth, an HDTV station can run around 8 multicast channels, such as
> our
> KSCI channel 18.  If they want to, each of them can have a SAP.  Here in
> the
> LA
> area, yes, when KLCS 58 is running DVS, the SAP is stereo split among
> discription-and-main audio.
> Here there are some children's programming, as well as prime time with
> either
> Spanish or DVS.  I sure wish some of our Spanish stations would translate
> News
> in English.
> Hope that explains alot of things
> Hart
>
>
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