[nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talkingaboutblind justice

John Heim jheim at math.wisc.edu
Thu Aug 12 19:28:39 UTC 2010 

Man, you liberals are all alike -- absolutely no sense of humor.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh 
talkingaboutblind justice


> Oh no I won't.  I was offended that he called us a bunch of "bigoted 
> morons".  I was offended that he, and too many of his kind, do not seem to 
> want to understand the NFB position on this matter.  I could ask why you 
> decide now to be so ugly about this; but, I will refrain.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:03 PM, John Heim wrote:
>
>> Your disappointment with Rush Limbaugh aside, what's wrong with what he 
>> said?I mean, specifically, where do you disagree with his comments? 
>> Because I don't think you can disagree with him without trampling on 
>> several sacred cows of the conservative point of view.
>>
>> Are you in favor of the Justice Department telling Amazon how to run 
>> their business? If you don't like it that Case-Western University is 
>> giving out kindles, go somewhere else. Go to UCLA or the University of 
>> Wisconsin. Or go to Case-Western and opt out of the kindle program. Where 
>> is it written that government is responsible for making sure that 
>> everything is fair? I don't remember seeing that in the Constitution.  If 
>> the kindle isn't accessible, why don't you invent your own kindle-like 
>> device that is accessible. Amazon didn't exist 15 years ago. They built 
>> that business up from nothing. If accessibility is so important, why 
>> don't you get out there and build your own Amazon that is 100% accessible 
>> and put Amazon out of business? Otherwise, stop holding everybody else 
>> back just so you can make it in this world. Or are you one of those guys 
>> who thinks everybody has to win? You think that if Little Johnny comes in 
>> 87th he should get a pat on the back, told he did a good job,
>  and get handed an 87th place medal he can have framed and put above the 
> fireplace?
>>
>> Boy, I'd better be careful here. Next thing I know you'll change your 
>> mind and side with Limbaugh after all.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talking 
>> aboutblind justice
>>
>>
>>> I believe that everybody on this list knows of my political affiliation 
>>> with the conservative side.  Let me say something about this Limbaugh 
>>> piece.  I find it extremely offensive.  I have never felt so betrayed by 
>>> someone who was supposedly one of my own!!!  It's quite clear to me that 
>>> there are many issues which this brings up; but, I will touch on only 
>>> one of them here.  Sadly, it is the case that many political 
>>> conservatives and Republican party mouth pieces will not understand our 
>>> point of view.  Note that I did not say do not understand; rather, I 
>>> said "will not understand"; big difference.  I first began to see the 
>>> sad truth of this back in 2005 when the secretary of education, 
>>> Spelling, wanted to cut out individual rehab services offices.  I dare 
>>> say we all remember what happened in consequence of that.  Joanne wilson 
>>> resigned her position and became a private citizen.  I believe that was 
>>> when the light really went off in my head about the truth of what was 
>>> really
> go
>>> ing on.  Small wonder that we are in the situation we are in.  The 
>>> trouble with political conservatives is this.  Many of them say words 
>>> that they know that the true conservatives want to hear, and, maybe some 
>>> of them even believe those words.  The trouble is this.  They are saying 
>>> those words for the sake of political expediency.  Now, on the other 
>>> hand, my personal life experience has taught me that it just doesn't 
>>> work that way. When people like Rush Limbaugh make statements such as he 
>>> made in this piece, he only serves to hurt both the blindness cause, and 
>>> also, the conservative cause also.  I want to say something else for the 
>>> record. There was a time when I did used to listen to him; but, over the 
>>> course of the past five years or so, I ceased to listen to hymn; 
>>> especially after Hurricane Katrina.  I felt that he was no longer what 
>>> he once had been, and, I felt that he had lost focus.  Frankly, as a 
>>> blind conservative, I find myself very much offended by what Limbaugh
>>> says here because what we have is a fundamental lack of the will to 
>>> understand our point of view.  To put it bluntly, he's going for 
>>> sensationalism and not much if anything else.  Be that as it may, words 
>>> mean things.  The way people use words also means things.  I cannot help 
>>> but wonder how this effects other blind conservatives; but, that subject 
>>> matter, I forbear to enter.  Doubtless, blind people on the other side 
>>> of the isle, (so to speak) are wondering why, in the face of Limbaugh's 
>>> tirade, we can still feel as we do.  I will not discuss this except to 
>>> say that we who are blind conservatives do not need Limbaugh to tell us 
>>> what to think.  I feel as I do and think as I do and have done so long 
>>> before I ever heard Limbaugh for the first time.  Sadly, this recent 
>>> event more than confirms something I have long thought.  But, that is a 
>>> subject which does not directly touch the blindness factors, and so, I 
>>> will leave it to another group or time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>>>
>>> E-Mail:
>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>> Skype Name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Michael Barber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out the following link.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtR_yHDVAQ8&feature=related
>>>>
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