[nfb-talk] Check Out This Link OnRushLimbaughtalking aboutblind justice

[ckrugman at sbcglobal.net]

Here in fresno we picketed the opening showing or the evening showing on the 
opening day the attendance was poor and a lady that came out of the movie as 
we were arriving said that it wasn't worth going to see. The attendance for 
it was very poor and as in yiour market it was gone at the end of the first 
week.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
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justice


> hi,
>
> imo that was a battle that should have been on the ignore stack.
> by demonstrating and picketing, the movie got much more publicity than it 
> deserved.
> in my market, there was no publicity about the movie and it was gone from 
> the theaters by the next friday and people picketing in kansas city caused 
> the issue to drag on for several weeks and nothing happened other than the 
> normal action of a movie being removed.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
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> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On RushLimbaughtalking 
> aboutblind justice
>
>
>> If we could go after the "Blindness" movie I think that was the name of 
>> it we should go after Limbaugh as this does more real damage based on the 
>> size of the audiences.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Bullis" <mabullis at hotmail.com>
>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaughtalking 
>> aboutblind justice
>>
>>
>>> What I found rather odd about it was that the commentary on kindle and 
>>> the
>>> nfb didn't seem to be related to the issue of the Black Panthers and the
>>> Justice Department.  I know about both issues but don't see the
>>> relationship.  And, significantly, he never explains it.  He never says, 
>>> "so
>>> you see that a justice department that excludes book reader tests would
>>> obviously be against white people."
>>> So, my conclusion is that he's reaching and counting on the fact that he 
>>> has
>>> an audience not particularly familiar with logic or straight line 
>>> thinking.
>>> So, the question is, do we make some political hay out of this which is 
>>> what
>>> he wants?  Or, do we ignore him as being not on track.
>>> My view is that we go after him because in a media fight we can probably
>>> win.
>>> But....
>>> What do you all think?
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:44 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talking
>>> aboutblind justice
>>>
>>> I interpreted his diatribe as calling Obama's people bigoted morons, not
>>> NFB.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:23, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh no I won't.  I was offended that he called us a bunch of "bigoted
>>> morons".  I was offended that he, and too many of his kind, do not seem 
>>> to
>>> want to understand the NFB position on this matter.  I could ask why you
>>> decide now to be so ugly about this; but, I will refrain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>>>>
>>>> E-Mail:
>>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:03 PM, John Heim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Your disappointment with Rush Limbaugh aside, what's wrong with what 
>>>>> he
>>> said?I mean, specifically, where do you disagree with his comments? 
>>> Because
>>> I don't think you can disagree with him without trampling on several 
>>> sacred
>>> cows of the conservative point of view.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you in favor of the Justice Department telling Amazon how to run
>>> their business? If you don't like it that Case-Western University is 
>>> giving
>>> out kindles, go somewhere else. Go to UCLA or the University of 
>>> Wisconsin.
>>> Or go to Case-Western and opt out of the kindle program. Where is it 
>>> written
>>> that government is responsible for making sure that everything is fair? 
>>> I
>>> don't remember seeing that in the Constitution.  If the kindle isn't
>>> accessible, why don't you invent your own kindle-like device that is
>>> accessible. Amazon didn't exist 15 years ago. They built that business 
>>> up
>>> from nothing. If accessibility is so important, why don't you get out 
>>> there
>>> and build your own Amazon that is 100% accessible and put Amazon out of
>>> business? Otherwise, stop holding everybody else back just so you can 
>>> make
>>> it in this world. Or are you one of those guys who thinks everybody has 
>>> to
>>> win? You think that if Little Johnny comes in 87th he should get a pat 
>>> on
>>> the back, told he did a good job,
>>>>  and get handed an 87th place medal he can have framed and put above 
>>>> the
>>> fireplace?
>>>>>
>>>>> Boy, I'd better be careful here. Next thing I know you'll change your
>>> mind and side with Limbaugh after all.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" 
>>>>> <rforetjr at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talking
>>> aboutblind justice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe that everybody on this list knows of my political 
>>>>>> affiliation
>>> with the conservative side.  Let me say something about this Limbaugh 
>>> piece.
>>> I find it extremely offensive.  I have never felt so betrayed by someone 
>>> who
>>> was supposedly one of my own!!!  It's quite clear to me that there are 
>>> many
>>> issues which this brings up; but, I will touch on only one of them here.
>>> Sadly, it is the case that many political conservatives and Republican 
>>> party
>>> mouth pieces will not understand our point of view.  Note that I did not 
>>> say
>>> do not understand; rather, I said "will not understand"; big difference. 
>>> I
>>> first began to see the sad truth of this back in 2005 when the secretary 
>>> of
>>> education, Spelling, wanted to cut out individual rehab services 
>>> offices. I
>>> dare say we all remember what happened in consequence of that.  Joanne
>>> wilson resigned her position and became a private citizen.  I believe 
>>> that
>>> was when the light really went off in my head about the truth of what 
>>> was
>>> really
>>>> go
>>>>>> ing on.  Small wonder that we are in the situation we are in.  The
>>> trouble with political conservatives is this.  Many of them say words 
>>> that
>>> they know that the true conservatives want to hear, and, maybe some of 
>>> them
>>> even believe those words.  The trouble is this.  They are saying those 
>>> words
>>> for the sake of political expediency.  Now, on the other hand, my 
>>> personal
>>> life experience has taught me that it just doesn't work that way. When
>>> people like Rush Limbaugh make statements such as he made in this piece, 
>>> he
>>> only serves to hurt both the blindness cause, and also, the conservative
>>> cause also.  I want to say something else for the record. There was a 
>>> time
>>> when I did used to listen to him; but, over the course of the past five
>>> years or so, I ceased to listen to hymn; especially after Hurricane 
>>> Katrina.
>>> I felt that he was no longer what he once had been, and, I felt that he 
>>> had
>>> lost focus.  Frankly, as a blind conservative, I find myself very much
>>> offended by what Limbaugh
>>>>>> says here because what we have is a fundamental lack of the will to
>>> understand our point of view.  To put it bluntly, he's going for
>>> sensationalism and not much if anything else.  Be that as it may, words 
>>> mean
>>> things.  The way people use words also means things.  I cannot help but
>>> wonder how this effects other blind conservatives; but, that subject 
>>> matter,
>>> I forbear to enter.  Doubtless, blind people on the other side of the 
>>> isle,
>>> (so to speak) are wondering why, in the face of Limbaugh's tirade, we 
>>> can
>>> still feel as we do.  I will not discuss this except to say that we who 
>>> are
>>> blind conservatives do not need Limbaugh to tell us what to think.  I 
>>> feel
>>> as I do and think as I do and have done so long before I ever heard 
>>> Limbaugh
>>> for the first time.  Sadly, this recent event more than confirms 
>>> something I
>>> have long thought.  But, that is a subject which does not directly touch 
>>> the
>>> blindness factors, and so, I will leave it to another group or time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E-Mail:
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