[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Sat Dec 4 16:05:20 UTC 2010

Maybe it's you who doesn't get our point.  I feel like I would make more progress convencing a brick wall.

Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
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On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Bryan Schulz wrote:

> everyone doesn't get the speed point.
> how much extra time did it take him compared to same skill of a sighted builder and how much material had to be recut?
> 
> Bryan Schulz
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> 
> 
>> We have a very close friend, totally blind who can do just about anything. He repairs cars, he remodeled his basement, rebuilding the steps, and recently built us a porch on the back of our house.  He built a beautiful deck on his own house and did it single-handedly.  He does electrical work, plumbing and just about anything else you can name.  I wish my husband could do what he can do.  It would have saved us a ton of money years ago before I knew him.  Of course we paid for the porch, but since he is a friend, we made a good deal.  Never under-estimate the ability of a competent blind person.  With the right tools and knowledge, you can do whatever you choose.
>> 
>> Connie Canode
>> At 09:13 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
>>> Brian,
>>> 
>>> Get a life.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gloria Whipple
>>> Corresponding Secretary
>>> Inland Empire chapter
>>> nfb of WA
>>> 
>>> cell number: 509-475-4993
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:11 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>> 
>>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they are?  Don't you
>>> think there are any blind people actually involved in the building of their
>>> own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do much of anything?  Oh, of
>>> course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state provided reading
>>> radio service.  Yeah, that's the life for sure.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype Name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>> 
>>> > wishful thinking...
>>> > people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>>> > a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship f-ups > and
>>> people running everywhere.
>>> > you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
>>> material and tools all over the site without falling?
>>> > you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who owns a > racing
>>> team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the time
>>> limits.
>>> >
>>> > Bryan Schulz
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can implement it,
>>> people would certainly get a different perspective on what blind people are
>>> really like.
>>> >>
>>> >> Connie Canode
>>> >> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>> >>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of only one way >>> to
>>> stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and competent blind
>>> people on the make over crew.  Once we do that, maybe they'll get the idea.
>>> Barring that, maybe we ought to have some competent blind people at least
>>> helping out on a make-over project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let us
>>> officially be part of what I presume bills itself as a professional
>>> make-over crew.
>>> >>> Thoughts?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sincerely,
>>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Skype Name:
>>> >>> barefootedray
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Hello John and everyone,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >    If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
>>> >>> experience
>>> >>> > we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd understand >>> > why
>>> > the
>>> >>> > red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
>>> >>> to portray
>>> >>> > us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>> >>> modifications to the
>>> >>> > home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets >
>>> incidents
>>> >>> > like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
>>> >>> continue to
>>> >>> > happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove that >>> > the
>>> >>> > manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
>>> >>> this show
>>> >>> > where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
>>> >>> continues
>>> >>> > to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
>>> >>> suspect in
>>> >>> > my book.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Peter Donahue
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> > From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a
>>> disability
>>> >>> > advocate.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> I feel the same way.  First question that came to find...If these >>> >>  >>
>>> people
>>> >>> >> are
>>> >>> >> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their
>>> disabilities, >> and
>>> >>> >> they have learned so much in the four years they've been blind, >>> >> why
>>> >> can't
>>> >>> >> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Cindy
>>> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> >> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> >>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle? >>> >> Anyone
>>> >> care
>>> >>> >> to
>>> >>> >> guess why?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Sincerely,
>>> >>> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Skype Name:
>>> >>> >> barefootedray
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> >>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>> >>> >>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>> >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>> >>> >>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S >>> >>>  >>>
>>> "Extreme
>>> >>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S "Extreme >>> >>>  >>>
>>> Makeover:
>>> >>> >>> Home Edition"
>>> >>> >>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested in
>>> >>> >>> inclusive
>>> >>> >>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to tune >>> >>> into
>>> >>> >>> "Extreme
>>> >>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5. While we
>>> >>> can't
>>> >>> >>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and heard >>> >>> (it
>>> >>> would
>>> >>> >>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much greater
>>> >>> >>> awareness
>>> >>> >>> of the services and products now available for people who have >>> >>>  >>>
>>> limited or
>>> >>> >>> no
>>> >>> >>> sight.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Here is the information the production company has released in >>> >>>  >>>
>>> advance
>>> >>> >>> about
>>> >>> >>> this episode:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the >>> >>> Anderson
>>> >>> >>> Family
>>> >>> >>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to >>> >>> action
>>> >>> when
>>> >>> >>> they
>>> >>> >>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the >>> >>> obstacles
>>> >>> >>> facing
>>> >>> >>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their work,
>>> >>> Andre
>>> >>> >>> and
>>> >>> >>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and counseling >>> >>> the
>>> >>> >>> disabled
>>> >>> >>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead more
>>> >>> >>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the definitive
>>> >>> role
>>> >>> >>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have never >>> >>> let
>>> >>> >>> anything
>>> >>> >>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad >>> >>> school,
>>> >>> run a
>>> >>> >>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group, and
>>> all
>>> >>> >>> while
>>> >>> >>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is hearing
>>> >>> >>> impaired).
>>> >>> >>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and
>>> Jahzion
>>> >>> >>> were
>>> >>> >>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced their
>>> >>> >>> reality.
>>> >>> >>> While they continue to empower their community, the family has >>> >>> hit a
>>> >>> >>> rough
>>> >>> >>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has become
>>> >>> >>> complicated
>>> >>> >>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of how
>>> their
>>> >>> >>> needs
>>> >>> >>> continue to grow.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in sight >>> >>> when
>>> >>> Ty
>>> >>> >>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and Xzibit >>> >>>  >>>
>>> deliver a
>>> >>> >>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers >>>
>>> Construction
>>> >>> >>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give them
>>> the >>> key
>>> >>> >>> to
>>> >>> >>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons will >>> >>>  >>>
>>> vacation
>>> >>> >>> in
>>> >>> >>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
>>> >>> >>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover: Home >>> >>>  >>>
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