[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Constance Canode satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
Sat Dec 4 16:29:41 UTC 2010


Brian, would a crowbar open your closed mind.

Connie Canode
At 10:05 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
>Maybe it's you who doesn't get our point.  I feel like I would make 
>more progress convencing a brick wall.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>
>Skype Name:
>barefootedray
>
>On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>
> > everyone doesn't get the speed point.
> > how much extra time did it take him compared to same skill of a 
> sighted builder and how much material had to be recut?
> >
> > Bryan Schulz
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode" 
> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >
> >
> >> We have a very close friend, totally blind who can do just about 
> anything. He repairs cars, he remodeled his basement, rebuilding 
> the steps, and recently built us a porch on the back of our 
> house.  He built a beautiful deck on his own house and did it 
> single-handedly.  He does electrical work, plumbing and just about 
> anything else you can name.  I wish my husband could do what he can 
> do.  It would have saved us a ton of money years ago before I knew 
> him.  Of course we paid for the porch, but since he is a friend, we 
> made a good deal.  Never under-estimate the ability of a competent 
> blind person.  With the right tools and knowledge, you can do 
> whatever you choose.
> >>
> >> Connie Canode
> >> At 09:13 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
> >>> Brian,
> >>>
> >>> Get a life.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gloria Whipple
> >>> Corresponding Secretary
> >>> Inland Empire chapter
> >>> nfb of WA
> >>>
> >>> cell number: 509-475-4993
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:11 PM
> >>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>
> >>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they are?  Don't you
> >>> think there are any blind people actually involved in the 
> building of their
> >>> own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do much of 
> anything?  Oh, of
> >>> course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state provided reading
> >>> radio service.  Yeah, that's the life for sure.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>
> >>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>>
> >>> Skype Name:
> >>> barefootedray
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > wishful thinking...
> >>> > people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
> >>> > a relative worked on one and there were all kind of 
> worksmanship f-ups > and
> >>> people running everywhere.
> >>> > you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
> >>> material and tools all over the site without falling?
> >>> > you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who 
> owns a > racing
> >>> team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the time
> >>> limits.
> >>> >
> >>> > Bryan Schulz
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
> >>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can implement it,
> >>> people would certainly get a different perspective on what 
> blind people are
> >>> really like.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Connie Canode
> >>> >> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
> >>> >>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of 
> only one way >>> to
> >>> stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and 
> competent blind
> >>> people on the make over crew.  Once we do that, maybe they'll 
> get the idea.
> >>> Barring that, maybe we ought to have some competent blind people at least
> >>> helping out on a make-over project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let us
> >>> officially be part of what I presume bills itself as a professional
> >>> make-over crew.
> >>> >>> Thoughts?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Skype Name:
> >>> >>> barefootedray
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> > Hello John and everyone,
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >    If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
> >>> >>> experience
> >>> >>> > we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd 
> understand >>> > why
> >>> > the
> >>> >>> > red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
> >>> >>> to portray
> >>> >>> > us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
> >>> >>> modifications to the
> >>> >>> > home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets >
> >>> incidents
> >>> >>> > like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
> >>> >>> continue to
> >>> >>> > happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't 
> prove that >>> > the
> >>> >>> > manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
> >>> >>> this show
> >>> >>> > where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
> >>> >>> continues
> >>> >>> > to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
> >>> >>> suspect in
> >>> >>> > my book.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Peter Donahue
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >>> > From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
> >>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> >>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
> >>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a
> >>> disability
> >>> >>> > advocate.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >>> > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> >>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> >>> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
> >>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >> I feel the same way.  First question that came to 
> find...If these >>> >>  >>
> >>> people
> >>> >>> >> are
> >>> >>> >> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their
> >>> disabilities, >> and
> >>> >>> >> they have learned so much in the four years they've been 
> blind, >>> >> why
> >>> >> can't
> >>> >>> >> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Cindy
> >>> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >>> >> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> >>> >>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
> >>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already 
> skepticle? >>> >> Anyone
> >>> >> care
> >>> >>> >> to
> >>> >>> >> guess why?
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Sincerely,
> >>> >>> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Skype Name:
> >>> >>> >> barefootedray
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >>> >>> Q From: Mary Watkins
> >>> >>> >>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
> >>> >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
> >>> >>> >>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning 
> into ABC'S >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> "Extreme
> >>> >>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S 
> "Extreme >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> Makeover:
> >>> >>> >>> Home Edition"
> >>> >>> >>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested in
> >>> >>> >>> inclusive
> >>> >>> >>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision 
> to tune >>> >>> into
> >>> >>> >>> "Extreme
> >>> >>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5. While we
> >>> >>> can't
> >>> >>> >>> provide any specific information on what will be seen 
> and heard >>> >>> (it
> >>> >>> would
> >>> >>> >>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much greater
> >>> >>> >>> awareness
> >>> >>> >>> of the services and products now available for people 
> who have >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> limited or
> >>> >>> >>> no
> >>> >>> >>> sight.
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> Here is the information the production company has 
> released in >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> advance
> >>> >>> >>> about
> >>> >>> >>> this episode:
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected 
> the >>> >>> Anderson
> >>> >>> >>> Family
> >>> >>> >>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the 
> call to >>> >>> action
> >>> >>> when
> >>> >>> >>> they
> >>> >>> >>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of 
> the >>> >>> obstacles
> >>> >>> >>> facing
> >>> >>> >>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their work,
> >>> >>> Andre
> >>> >>> >>> and
> >>> >>> >>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and 
> counseling >>> >>> the
> >>> >>> >>> disabled
> >>> >>> >>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead more
> >>> >>> >>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the definitive
> >>> >>> role
> >>> >>> >>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine 
> have never >>> >>> let
> >>> >>> >>> anything
> >>> >>> >>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete 
> grad >>> >>> school,
> >>> >>> run a
> >>> >>> >>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group, and
> >>> all
> >>> >>> >>> while
> >>> >>> >>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is hearing
> >>> >>> >>> impaired).
> >>> >>> >>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and
> >>> Jahzion
> >>> >>> >>> were
> >>> >>> >>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced their
> >>> >>> >>> reality.
> >>> >>> >>> While they continue to empower their community, the 
> family has >>> >>> hit a
> >>> >>> >>> rough
> >>> >>> >>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has become
> >>> >>> >>> complicated
> >>> >>> >>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of how
> >>> their
> >>> >>> >>> needs
> >>> >>> >>> continue to grow.
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes 
> in sight >>> >>> when
> >>> >>> Ty
> >>> >>> >>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, 
> and Xzibit >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> deliver a
> >>> >>> >>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers >>>
> >>> Construction
> >>> >>> >>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give them
> >>> the >>> key
> >>> >>> >>> to
> >>> >>> >>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The 
> Andersons will >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> vacation
> >>> >>> >>> in
> >>> >>> >>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
> >>> >>> >>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme 
> Makeover: Home >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> Edition,"
> >>> >>> >>> now
> >>> >>> >>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a 
> division of >>> >>> Endemol
> >>> >>> >>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and 
> George >>> >>> Verschoor.
> >>> >>> >>> David
> >>> >>> >>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show 
> airs >>> >>> Sundays
> >>> >>> from
> >>> >>> >>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
> >>> >>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a 
> Services >>> >>> division
> >>> >>> and a
> >>> >>> >>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth 
> Shapiro >>> >>> Family
> >>> >>> >>> National
> >>> >>> >>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and 
> delivered >>> >>> captioned
> >>> >>> and
> >>> >>> >>> described media for nearly four decades to people in their homes,
> >>> >>> >>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media 
> Access >>> >>> Group
> >>> >>> >>> continues to develop new solutions to access challenges as >>>
> >>> technology,
> >>> >>> >>> and
> >>> >>> >>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of the group's >>>
> >>> collective
> >>> >>> >>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their
> >>> success >>> is
> >>> >>> >>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and 
> continuous >>> >>> growth,
> >>> >>> the
> >>> >>> >>> integration of innovative products and services into 
> society at >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> large,
> >>> >>> >>> and
> >>> >>> >>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences served, 
> including 36 >>> >>>  >>>
> >>> million
> >>> >>> >>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low 
> vision. >>> >>> More
> >>> >>> >>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH can be found at:
> >>> >>> >>> http://access.wgbh.org.
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> Contact:
> >>> >>> >>> Mary Watkins
> >>> >>> >>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
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> >>> >>> >>>
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