[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
John Heim
john at johnheim.net
Sun Dec 5 01:38:38 UTC 2010
I do woodworking. Blind woodworkers have one major advantage over
sighted woodworkers, they can work in the dark. Another thing I've
noticed is that blind people seem to do much better when a job calls
for doing something by feel like reaching into a tight space to fascen
a bolt. I was putting in a toilet with a guy one time and he must have
tried to put on the bolts in the back for a full minute or two before
giving up and leting me try. I did it in about 5 seconds. That kind of
thing happens all the time.
But I don't believe for a second that a blind woodworker can act as
fast as a sighted one.
On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Cindy Handel wrote:
> Brian,
>
> I think you're assuming that the blind guy is going at this with no
> experience. Certainly, when a blind person starts to do building or
> carpentry, he/she will be slow. But, a new craftsman who is sighted
> will be
> slow, too. Speed comes with experience, whether you're sighted or
> blind.
> If you don't do this kind of work and have never tried to learn it
> as a
> blind person, then you have no reference to understand how a blind
> person
> can accomplish the job and compete with a sighted person, doing the
> same
> job. But, please don't discount the blind person, just because he's
> blind.
>
> Cindy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
> hi,
>
> sometimes it depends on the task.
> say cutting a sheet of plywood, i believe a blind guy can operate
> the saw
> and cut the sheet but i don't believe it could be done without the
> start and
> end point being more than 1/16th of an inch different and as fast as a
> sighted carpenter and that's the point people refuse to accept.
> getting the job done is possible but the public doesn't tolerate
> time lags
> taken by the blind cohart.
> now days, air compressors run nail guns and you only get one pop. is
> the
> blind guy going to knowwhen the nail goes into the sheet and misses
> the stud
> with all the noise?
> how happy is the boss going to be when you just blew 10 minutes
> doing a line
> of nails and you were not hitting the stud?
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
>> In an attempt to keep on topic, let me remind you that sighted
>> folks don't
>> hit the mail on the head every time. They mash their fingers too.
>> YOu
>> think they don't have accidents? Well, guess what, they do. I'm
>> trying
>> real hard not to make assumptions about you or your level of
>> independance,
>> but, I'd just like to put one question to you sir. Do you not
>> believe in
>> your heart of hearts that the blind can really do these things?
>> Seems to
>> me we cannot have a very meaningful discussion until we address
>> that one.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> i'm not taking it personal.
>>> what irks me is that blind people get pissed if they are told they
>>> can't
>>> do something and take it as because you are blind and don't stop to
>>> consider what is reality or what makes sense.
>>> of course a blind person can swing a hammer or use a power saw but
>>> are
>>> they going to be able to hold a board with one handand hit the
>>> nail dead
>>> center every swing or cutthe the line exactly while keeping a half
>>> sheet
>>> of plywood from falling with the other hand and the point that blind
>>> people fail to accept is will those or other tasks even come close
>>> to the
>>> speed of a sighted carpenter?
>>> are people really going to demand that the entire crew should be
>>> blind?
>>> do you really think that a sighted crew would allow a blind guy to
>>> be up
>>> on the roof slinging the plywood?
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey, it aint personal. How come you gotta take it personally?
>>>> What's
>>>> the matter? Can't stand truly independant blind people? I see
>>>> it all
>>>> the time. The dependant blind call the independant blind "super
>>>> blinks". Why? Well, my own idea about that is that they are
>>>> jealous of
>>>> what we have and are; but, instead of bettering themselves, they
>>>> get
>>>> mad.
>>>>
>>>> tisk tisk tisk.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> put up some $$ cuz they say bs walks!
>>>>> i'm tired of people talking smack and telling other people they
>>>>> are
>>>>> full of sh$$ about various topics.
>>>>> i have been going to professional nhra drag races for 20 years
>>>>> and the
>>>>> teams do rebuild an alcohol or nitro motor in about 30 minutes
>>>>> after
>>>>> each run.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay Blake owns the follow a dream alcohol funny car and he is
>>>>> completely capable of working on the motor but not at the same
>>>>> pace as
>>>>> sighted mechanics on race day and has the sense to accept that
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of being a weak link.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Got news for you bro. There's no way it takes just thirty
>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>> You've heard of editing right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> don't play the pity card bro!
>>>>>>> i'm just telling people what happens in the real world outside
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> nfb bubble.
>>>>>>> did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
>>>>>>> the man's race team completely rebuilds a motor in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>> i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the air
>>>>>>> gun and
>>>>>>> working on the motor on race day but he has realized that the
>>>>>>> team
>>>>>>> has more success when he stays out of the way and let his
>>>>>>> employees
>>>>>>> perform the rebuild.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what would you propose? Leaving things the way they
>>>>>>>> are? Don't
>>>>>>>> you think there are any blind people actually involved in the
>>>>>>>> building of their own homes? Could it be that you don't
>>>>>>>> think we do
>>>>>>>> much of anything? Oh, of course. Sit in rocking chairs and
>>>>>>>> listen
>>>>>>>> to our state provided reading radio service. Yeah, that's
>>>>>>>> the life
>>>>>>>> for sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wishful thinking...
>>>>>>>>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>>>>>>>>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of
>>>>>>>>> worksmanship
>>>>>>>>> f-ups and people running everywhere.
>>>>>>>>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of
>>>>>>>>> drywall
>>>>>>>>> with material and tools all over the site without falling?
>>>>>>>>> you don't get the pace. just like there is a blind guy who
>>>>>>>>> owns a
>>>>>>>>> racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day
>>>>>>>>> due to
>>>>>>>>> the time limits.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>>>>>>>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea. Now if we can
>>>>>>>>>> implement
>>>>>>>>>> it, people would certainly get a different perspective on
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> blind people are really like.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Connie Canode
>>>>>>>>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking. I know of
>>>>>>>>>>> only one
>>>>>>>>>>> way to stop this. What we need to do is get some
>>>>>>>>>>> independent and
>>>>>>>>>>> competent blind people on the make over crew. Once we do
>>>>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe they'll get the idea. Barring that, maybe we ought
>>>>>>>>>>> to have
>>>>>>>>>>> some competent blind people at least helping out on a make-
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let us officially be
>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>> of what I presume bills itself as a professional make-over
>>>>>>>>>>> crew.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello John and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you take the time to read the message I sent
>>>>>>>>>>>> concerning
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand > > why > > the
>>>>>>>>>>>> red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition
>>>>>>>>>>>> continues
>>>>>>>>>>> to portray
>>>>>>>>>>>> us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>>>>>>>>>> modifications to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> home environment or a presumed dependency on a million
>>>>>>>>>>>> gadgets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incidents
>>>>>>>>>>>> like the one I described in my message earlier this morning
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> continue to
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > the
>>>>>>>>>>>> manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an
>>>>>>>>>>>> episode
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> this show
>>>>>>>>>>>> where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV
>>>>>>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>>>>> continues
>>>>>>>>>>>> to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll
>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> suspect in
>>>>>>>>>>>> my book.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability
>>>>>>>>>>>> advocate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel the same way. First question that came to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find...If >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these >> >> >> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilities, >> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have learned so much in the four years they've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind, >> >> why >> >> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already
>>>>>>>>>>>>> skepticle? >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone >> >> care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC'S >>> >>> >>> >>> "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home Edition"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested >>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tune >>> >>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Family
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action >>> >>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstacles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, >>> >>> >>> Andre
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counseling >>> >>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>> >>> let
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impaired).
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jasison and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jahzion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While they continue to empower their community, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>> >>> hit >>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rough
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face of
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to grow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brothers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Construction
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
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