[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Sun Dec 5 16:17:54 UTC 2010

Peter, I love that idea and I would be first in line, or maybe second 
right behind you.

Connie Canode
At 10:10 AM 12/5/2010, you wrote:
>Good morning everyone,
>
>     If they won't put us to work on the make-over crew why not  picket the
>site? They'd love that publicity now wouldn't they?
>
>Peter Donahue
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
>Ray,
>
>Actually it is not uncommon for a NASCAR team to perform major engine and
>body repairs in 30 minutes.  Generally if an engine needs to be totally
>rebuilt, it ends the day for the team.  The lost time prevents earning
>enough points to bother with the effort.
>
>I believe showing up at the home make over site would be a waste of time,
>too.  Those folks already have their beliefs that we are not capable.  They
>don't have the time or inclination to examine or change them.
>
>Their gig is all about making a profit for their show and giving the viewers
>a nice warm feeling about how someone who the viewer believes is a helpless
>soul a nice refurbished place to live.  At least until the house is lost
>through the owners inability to pay the increased property taxes.  Which is
>what happens to most of the people who get sucked into allowing themselves
>to be extorted.
>
>Thanks, William
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:35 PM
>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>Got news for you bro.  There's no way it takes just thirty minutes.  You've
>heard of editing right?
>
>
>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>
>Skype Name:
>barefootedray
>
>On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>
> > don't play the pity card bro!
> > i'm just telling people what happens in the real world outside of the nfb
>bubble.
> > did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
> > the man's race team completely rebuilds a  motor in 30 minutes.
> > i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the air gun and
>working on the motor on race day but he has realized that the team has more
>success when he stays out of the way and let his employees perform the
>rebuild.
> >
> > Bryan Schulz
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >
> >
> >> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they are?  Don't you
>think there are any blind people actually involved in the building of their
>own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do much of anything? Oh, of
>course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state provided reading
>radio service.  Yeah, that's the life for sure.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>
> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>
> >> Skype Name:
> >> barefootedray
> >>
> >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
> >>
> >>> wishful thinking...
> >>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
> >>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship f-ups
>and people running everywhere.
> >>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
>material and tools all over the site without falling?
> >>> you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who owns a
>racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the time
>limits.
> >>>
> >>> Bryan Schulz
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
><satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> >>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can implement it,
>people would certainly get a different perspective on what blind people are
>really like.
> >>>>
> >>>> Connie Canode
> >>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
> >>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of only one way
>to stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and competent
>blind people on the make over crew.  Once we do that, maybe they'll get the
>idea.  Barring that, maybe we ought to have some competent blind people at
>least helping out on a make-over project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let
>us officially be part of what I presume bills itself as a professional
>make-over crew.
> >>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Skype Name:
> >>>>> barefootedray
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > Hello John and everyone,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >    If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
> >>>>> experience
> >>>>> > we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd understand
>why >  > the
> >>>>> > red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
> >>>>> to portray
> >>>>> > us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
> >>>>> modifications to the
> >>>>> > home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets > >
>incidents
> >>>>> > like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
> >>>>> continue to
> >>>>> > happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove that
>the
> >>>>> > manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
> >>>>> this show
> >>>>> > where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
> >>>>> continues
> >>>>> > to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
> >>>>> suspect in
> >>>>> > my book.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Peter Donahue
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
> >>>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a >
>disability
> >>>>> > advocate.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> >>>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> I feel the same way.  First question that came to find...If these
> >> >> people
> >>>>> >> are
> >>>>> >> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their >>
>disabilities, >> and
> >>>>> >> they have learned so much in the four years they've been blind, why
> >>  >> can't
> >>>>> >> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Cindy
> >>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> >> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> >>>>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle?  Anyone
> >>  >> care
> >>>>> >> to
> >>>>> >> guess why?
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Sincerely,
> >>>>> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Skype Name:
> >>>>> >> barefootedray
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> >>> Q From: Mary Watkins
> >>>>> >>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
> >>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
> >>>>> >>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
> >>> >>> "Extreme
> >>>>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S "Extreme
> >>> >>> Makeover:
> >>>>> >>> Home Edition"
> >>>>> >>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested in
> >>>>> >>> inclusive
> >>>>> >>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to tune
>into
> >>>>> >>> "Extreme
> >>>>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5. While we
> >>>  >>> can't
> >>>>> >>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and heard
>(it >>>  >>> would
> >>>>> >>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much greater
> >>>>> >>> awareness
> >>>>> >>> of the services and products now available for people who have >>>
> >>> limited or
> >>>>> >>> no
> >>>>> >>> sight.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Here is the information the production company has released in >>>
> >>> advance
> >>>>> >>> about
> >>>>> >>> this episode:
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the
>Anderson
> >>>>> >>> Family
> >>>>> >>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to action
> >>>  >>> when
> >>>>> >>> they
> >>>>> >>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the
>obstacles
> >>>>> >>> facing
> >>>>> >>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their work,
> >>>  >>> Andre
> >>>>> >>> and
> >>>>> >>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and counseling the
> >>>>> >>> disabled
> >>>>> >>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead more
> >>>>> >>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the definitive
> >>>  >>> role
> >>>>> >>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have never let
> >>>>> >>> anything
> >>>>> >>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad school,
> >>>  >>> run a
> >>>>> >>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group, and
> >>> all
> >>>>> >>> while
> >>>>> >>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is hearing
> >>>>> >>> impaired).
> >>>>> >>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and >>>
>Jahzion
> >>>>> >>> were
> >>>>> >>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced their
> >>>>> >>> reality.
> >>>>> >>> While they continue to empower their community, the family has hit
> >>> a
> >>>>> >>> rough
> >>>>> >>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has become
> >>>>> >>> complicated
> >>>>> >>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of how
> >>> their
> >>>>> >>> needs
> >>>>> >>> continue to grow.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in sight
> >>> when >>> Ty
> >>>>> >>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and Xzibit
> >>> >>> deliver a
> >>>>> >>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers >>>
> >>> Construction
> >>>>> >>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give them
> >>> the >>> key
> >>>>> >>> to
> >>>>> >>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons will >>>
> >>> vacation
> >>>>> >>> in
> >>>>> >>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
> >>>>> >>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover: Home >>>
> >>> Edition,"
> >>>>> >>> now
> >>>>> >>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a division of >>>
>Endemol
> >>>>> >>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and George >>>
>Verschoor.
> >>>>> >>> David
> >>>>> >>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show airs Sundays
> >>>  >>> from
> >>>>> >>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
> >>>>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a Services division
> >>>  >>> and a
> >>>>> >>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth Shapiro
>Family
> >>>>> >>> National
> >>>>> >>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and delivered captioned
> >>>  >>> and
> >>>>> >>> described media for nearly four decades to people in their homes,
> >>>>> >>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media Access >>>
>Group
> >>>>> >>> continues to develop new solutions to access challenges as >>> >>>
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> >>>>> >>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of the group's >>>
> >>> collective
> >>>>> >>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their >>>
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> >>>  >>> the
> >>>>> >>> integration of innovative products and services into society at
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> >>>>> >>> and
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> >>>>> >>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low vision.
> >>> More
> >>>>> >>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH can be found at:
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> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Contact:
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