[nfb-talk] Responce to NFB 2010 Resolutions:

[Steve Jacobson]

Chuck and Ken,

I'm not sure why we are all that concerned about what this Illinois Embasador has to say.  We have to deal with the 
world as it is and perhaps try to change it.  We can't approach the world pretending that it is something different which 
is how I see what he is writing.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 02:46:12 -0800, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net wrote:

>This sounds like its similar to organizations for the blind instead 
>organizations of the blind where a few are determining the interests of 
>everyone else.
>Chuck
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Responce to NFB 2010 Resolutions:


>> Go to:
>> http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org,
>> Find contacts, then under Illinois, you will find the Name of The 
>> Ambassador.
>> I sent Patty Chang the remarks of the ambassador.
>>
>> Ken Chrane
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 3:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Responce to NFB 2010 Resolutions:
>>
>>
>>> Who or what was the responder to this resolution. There appears to be a 
>>> credibility problem here.
>>> Chuck
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: <officeofthepresident at nfb.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:40 AM
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Responce to NFB 2010 Resolutions:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi This is Ken Chrane.
>>>> This is a Responce to our 2010 NFB Resolutions from an ambassitor of The 
>>>> Republic of Illinois.
>>>> Ken Chrane
>>>> In the document below, you are dealing with a dead defacto corporation. 
>>>> Defacto WILL be a thing of the past very soon.  We are dejure, we have 
>>>> reinhabited our states/Republics original organic Constitution and are 
>>>> the law of the land now.  We are recognized by over 94 nations, and the 
>>>> Corporation is over.  The time will come when the issues below are 
>>>> addressed.  With all due respect, securing our freedom is first, and 
>>>> done by re-inhabiting dejure grand juries throughout every county in 
>>>> these United States to handle such issues below.   This is the bottom 
>>>> up.  The people determining the outcome of their respective citites, 
>>>> counties, and state government.
>>>>
>>>> Have YOU helped establish a dejure grand jury in the county that you 
>>>> reside?  That is where all this begins.  Taking care of people in YOUR 
>>>> area.  You can write all the whereas es as you choose, but you need to 
>>>> narrow this down to reality.   Most of the groups you mentioned below 
>>>> will be history.  Dept of motor vehicles...gone, dept of education  - a 
>>>> bloated indoctrination controlling mechanism to dumb down our 
>>>> children --  gone, individuals mentioned below--in prison likely.    The 
>>>> resolution below is an example of more over-loaded and bloated 
>>>> bureaucratic nonsense. Government intervention into the lives of every 
>>>> individual to secure a small minorities demands is a foolish endeavor. 
>>>> Why would you want the government to come in to monitor every aspect of 
>>>> every handicapped persons life?  Demanding more oversight, thus 
>>>> hindering procurement of contracts, hindering companies by demanding 
>>>> they bow and serve needs of one group? This is another example of the 
>>>> typical entitlement mentality and bullying that has destroyed the fabric 
>>>> of our nation, and forcing companies out of the country.  And with that 
>>>> statement you need to understand that we do care about all Americans, 
>>>> including the blind, however, enough is enough. But demanding more 
>>>> over-bloated bureaucracy will only continue the frustration of groups 
>>>> such as yours. And I have experience working with EEOC and the Americans 
>>>> with Disabilities Acts, and I know just how worthless they are and why 
>>>> real handicapped are not protected.  Everything defacto has failed and 
>>>> it is time to take it to the people.
>>>>
>>>> As I said,  I do respect efforts to protect the blind as well as others 
>>>> who are "truly" handicapped, but it is NOT going to get done in the 
>>>> manner below.
>>>> Instead of disseminating defacto terminology, get educated.    Become a 
>>>> part of the re-inhabited government in YOUR area, and YOU can help 
>>>> determine how YOUR county handles such issues.   And be advised, you 
>>>> will NOT determine how ANYTHING in any other state/republic handles such 
>>>> issues within their respective dejure Republics.   Each state is its own 
>>>> nation, and the Federal dictating to states ends.  You worry about YOUR 
>>>> state, and I will worry about mine.  All will be good, but initiating 
>>>> another resolution full of demands with lots of defacto terminology as 
>>>> below, is over.  Common law rules the land.  Study common law then 
>>>> rewrite the document below according to common law and organic 
>>>> Constitutional guidelines and the county settlement document within your 
>>>> County.   That is where you must start.  Once you have rewritten the 
>>>> document below, by all means send it to me and I will forward it to the 
>>>> correct person to bring it forth for discussion to county juries in IL. 
>>>> Remember, it must be within common law guidelines.
>>>>
>>>> Contact me if you reside in Illinois.   Otherwise you should work within 
>>>> your own state.
>>>> Go to the national site where you may have found my address and download 
>>>> the onboarding package and go from there.
>>>> If you are in IL you are welcome to contact me back to find out how to 
>>>> become a dejure juror and address the issue of the blind in IL.
>>>> Since you have the zeal to help the blind, becoming a dejure grand juror 
>>>> will be the the best way.
>>>> Dejure is the remedy for all lawful issues and protecting all of our 
>>>> peoples.
>>>>
>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>> Illinois Ambassador