[nfb-talk] Tragedy in Denver

Sun Dec 19 01:27:18 UTC 2010

Hey, where are the facts of the matter here?  This is exactly how the
threads started to unwind with the Home Makeover issue, so until there are
cold hard facts in place, everything that is being said at this point is
nothing but mere speculation.  Come on folks, it happens everyday, and this
time it just happened to be one of our peers.    Manslaughter?  Vehicular
Homicide?  Where the heck is this coming from?  Has anyone ever thought that
perhaps in a state of panic, her foot slipped and hit the gas instead of the
brake as her car started to fish tail out of control?  Not out of the realm
of possibility, but go ahead and keep speculating and I will counter with an
equally thought provoking scenario.  Or, should I feed into it and speculate
that maybe she had a cocktail or two, maybe she was high, maybe she was
texting, having a seizure, a insulin reaction shal I go on?  Honestly, there
are countless possibilities of what may have happened here, and let's just
let the authorities figure out as it is there job, not yours or mine.  

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joshua Lester
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:59 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tragedy in Denver

That's exactly what I've been thinking all along. I don't know the area,
being that I live in Arkansas, but I agree that she might be charged with
something. I don't think it was a no-fault accident either, after your post,
Joseph. Btw, please E-mail me off list. I read what you've posted on the
Faith talk list. How are you doing? I had my church praying for you. Thanks,
Joshua

On 12/18/10, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> That makes sense.  Someone earlier was wondering what they'd charge 
> the lady with.  Given your description of the intersection, I'd guess 
> they could charge her with vehicular manslaughter or homicide (which 
> would get plea-bargained down to manslaughter) and probably get a
conviction.
>
> Mike
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tragedy in Denver
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>
>> Joshua,
>>
>> Knowing the intersection and the bus stop quite well, I can only say 
>> that this bus stop was about as safe as could be.  I don't think icy 
>> road conditions alone account for this accident.  The stop is too far 
>> from the intersection, the turn necessary to have caused the accident  
>> far too sharp, and the speed limit on Utica too low for any normal
explanation.
>>
>> If I had to hazard a guess, someone tried to gun it through a yellow 
>> light, made the turn, and then hit a patch of ice.  Not exactly a 
>> completely no-fault accident, if you ask me.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 02:06:05PM -0600, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>I'm in agreement with these posts. I found out about this yesterday, 
>>>and I'm still overwhelmed with sorrow. I had just met David at the 
>>>NFB convention in Dallas back in July. I'm praying for everyone at 
>>>the CCB, and all of his family. Yes, they do need to make those bus 
>>>stops safe for everyone. Let's petition congress. Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>>On 12/18/10, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>> Many prsons who are sighted feel they are with profection.
>>>> So when they go blind, they feel less than a person.
>>>> Not putting together what that sounds like.
>>>> I just hope Denver and other states will come up with an idea how 
>>>> to have a buss stop safe for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> The thing I don't understand is that the three were just standing 
>>>>> there waiting for the bus. Why cannot sighted people get it 
>>>>> through their thick skulls that it wasn't their fault.
>>>>
>>>>> Sighted people can be so dense.
>>>>
>>>>> It said very plainly in the article that the driver lost control 
>>>>> of her car because of the ice.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't get it!
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Alicia Richards
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:58 AM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tragedy in Denver
>>>>
>>>>> One of the upsetting things about yesterday's accident is that 
>>>>> many bloggers
>>>>
>>>>> on the Internet are saying the reason for the accident was 
>>>>> specifically because the students were blind.  I wish people would 
>>>>> have some common sense.  No sighted person would have been able to 
>>>>> react quickly enough and move out of the way in time, even if they 
>>>>> did see the car coming at them.
>>>>> This could have happened to any pedestrian taking public 
>>>>> transportation.
>>>>> I
>>>>> guess the incident being blamed on blindness does not surprise me, 
>>>>> but it does anger me.  I find such ignorance incredibly 
>>>>> frustrating.
>>>>
>>>>> Alicia
>>>>
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