[nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB

[Michael D. Barber]

It was before the hybrids were around. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB

Hello Michael and listers,

    Do you know if it was a conventional or a hybrid vehicle that hit her? 
If it was a hybrid vehicle there's proof positive that audible signals and
quiet cars are a bad brue for anyone to consume.

Peter Donahue


From: "Michael D. Barber" <michael.nfbi at gmail.com>
To: "'Tanna G. Shoyo'" <tshoyo at neb.rr.com>; "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" 
<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 6:48 AM
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While I know there are those who rely on the audible signals, we had a case
a few years ago here in Iowa where a lady crossed a street when the signal
indicated she should and was almost hit by a car who was running the light.
She listened to what the audible signal told her and ignored the traffic
patterns.

Michael

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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:39 PM
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I find those traffic signals to be more of a pain in the neck then helpful.
That would be one extra thing that our tax dollars would be paying for.

Tanna Shoyo
Lincoln, NE

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From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:25 PM
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> and that is why drivers must always yield to a person with a guide dog 
> or white cane -- but of course drivers make mistakes too...and 
> sometimes they don't study the driver's manual...but those same 
> drivers also don't pay attention to traffic signals, right?
> Go flame on another list. You've already filled enough mailboxes on 
> this topic several rounds over.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:49 PM
> Subject: [nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB
>
>
> from
>
> http://nfb.org/legacy/bm/bm03/bm0301/bm030103.htm
>
>
>
> -- begin quote --
>
> Mike Freeman: "We didn't need audible pedestrian signals, nor did we 
> need detectable warnings to walk the streets with safety and grace."
>
>
>
> -- end quote --
>
>
> Man, this really steams my wheaties. I was recently in San Rafael, 
> California getting a new guide dog from GDB. After one night training 
> session, the instructor told us that about half of the students 
> crossed against the light at a particular intercection. These are 
> people with proven mobility skills as GDB checks that out before the 
> admit students.
>
> The point is that anyone can make a mistake.  You might think that as 
> new guide dog trainees, the students were distracted or not at their 
> best. But that's not unusual. People are sometimes distracted or 
> distressed and they cross streets anyway. That's life.
>
> People aren't perfect. They make mistakes. Most likely, everyone 
> reading this message has crossed against the lights at one time or 
> another. And even if you haven't, others have. You may be perfect but 
> that doesn't mean you should dismiss the needs of those who aren't.
>
> The truth is that audible walk signals make us safer. The NFB, with 
> its bizarre, capricious policies has helped make this world less safe 
> for the very people it is supposed to protect.
>
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