[nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blindpeople to detectobjects'
Ray Foret Jr
rforetjr at att.net
Fri Nov 5 08:52:20 UTC 2010
I might say the same of the left bbill. Do you seriously think you can attack us conservatives on here and do so with impunity? Your time is coming to an end. You and all your sourt.
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The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
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On Nov 5, 2010, at 3:21 AM, Bill Outman wrote:
> This idea of chipping people for information tracing(oh, I meant tracking)
> purposes sounds like something out of right wing conspiracy land. That's
> not what implementation of electronic medical records means.
>
> I haven't heard this about the Obama plan from the most vehement opponents
> of the recently passed law who bloviate in the conservative echo chamber.
> There seems to be a parallel universe going on over there sometimes. This
> is right up there with the non-existent death panels.
>
> Folks, total repeal of health care reform cannot and should not happen. We
> should however be open to reasonable suggestions for improvement of the plan
> which has been put in place, which in my opinion may in the end have been
> insufficient, but we'll have to wait and see on that score.
>
> As for the concept of something like this chip to restore vision that might
> be a nice thing to have at some point. I had a good amount of functional
> vision in my childhood so I have a good sense of what this would be like.
> This would itself be quite an adjustment just as losing sight is a big
> adjustment and I don't believe even after about twenty-five years I have
> totally adjusted and I am unsure sometimes whether I want to partially for
> fear of being unable to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity for
> vision should it be presented.
>
> We say blindness is a nuisance and many ways it is, but boy, it is a very
> big one sometimes. This stirs up a lot of complex thoughts doesn't it?
>
> Bill Outman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:28 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blindpeople to
> detectobjects'
>
> I'm all in favor of progress, and actually think a chip to replace the
> retina would be great, just because of the adventure. But chip implantation
>
> in general I have real objections to. The ObamaCare plan is to start
> chipping people in 2013 and have it done by 2015. The reasoning, of course,
>
> is to expedite the health care management. It really does make sense
> outwardly, but the reality is that if an informational chip is implanted,
> then it might be possiblt to track your whereabouts, keep track of your
> buying and selling patterns, etc. I am not interested in being tracked this
>
> way. And this kind of chipping could be the precursor to what Bible
> prophecy calls "the mark of the beast." Of course, we don't know for sure,
> but it pays to be watchful.
>
> Judy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gloria Whipple" <fairyfoot at webband.com>
> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blindpeople to
> detectobjects'
>
>
>> I think it is stupid.
>>
>> Being blind doesn't stop me from doing things I like to do.
>>
>>
>> Gloria Whipple
>>
>> cell number: 509-475-4993
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:15 AM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blind people to
>> detectobjects'
>>
>> Nope. My brain's just fine like it is.
>> Honestly, if one adjusts to blindness, why would one want such a thing?
>> IF
>> not well adjusted, then I suppose one might want such a thing. but, what
>> with the programs we have in place, one would think such a chip
>> undesirable.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Gloria Whipple wrote:
>>
>>> Have no desires for that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>
>>> cell number: 509-475-4993
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Jennifer Aberdeen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:30 AM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blind people to
>>> detectobjects'
>>>
>>> Thank God!
>>>
>>> This is great news!
>>>
>>
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>>> To: <CSDB-ALUMNI at googlegroups.com>
>>> Cc: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:21 AM
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blind people to
>>> detectobjects'
>>>
>>>
>>>> What do you think about this Article?
>>>> Ken Chrane
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Lela Behee
>>>> To: venetian-blind at googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:38 AM
>>>> Subject: Implanted chip 'allows blind people to detect objects'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Though this may not be helpful for those of us who have prosthetic eyes
>>>> and so have no retina, what a very exciting leap forward this is in
>>>> technology!
>>>> Praise our Lord!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2 November 2010 Last updated at 20:49 ET
>>>> Implanted chip 'allows blind people to detect objects'
>>>> By Neil Bowdler Science reporter, BBC News
>>>>
>>>> Miikka Terho is given the task of reading letters which together
>>>> misspell
>>
>>>> his
>>>> own name
>>>> A man with an inherited form of blindness has been able to identify
>>>> letters and
>>>> a clock face using a pioneering implant, researchers say.
>>>> Miikka Terho, 46, from Finland, was fitted with an experimental chip
>>>> behind his
>>>> retina in Germany. Success was also reported in other patients.
>>>>
>>>> The chip allows a patient to detect objects with their eyes, unlike a
>>>> rival
>>>> approach that uses an external camera.
>>>>
>>>> Details of the work are in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society
>> B.
>>>>
>>>> Professor Eberhart Zrenner, of Germany's University of Tuebingen, and
>>>> colleagues
>>>> at private company Retina Implant AG initially tested their sub-retinal
>>>> chip on
>>>> 11 people.
>>>> Some noticed no improvement as their condition was too advanced to
>> benefit
>>>
>>>> from
>>>> the implant, but a majority were able to pick out bright objects, Prof
>>>> Zrenner
>>>> told the BBC.
>>>>
>>>> However, it was only when the chip was placed further behind the retina,
>>>> in the
>>>> central macular area in three people, that they achieved the best
>> results.
>>>>
>>>> Two of these had lost their vision because of the inherited condition
>>>> retinitis
>>>> pigmentosa, or RP, the other because of a related inherited condition
>>>> called
>>>> choroideraemia.
>>>>
>>>> RP leads to the progressive degeneration of cells in the eye's retina,
>>>> resulting
>>>> in night blindness, tunnel vision and then usually permanent blindness.
>>>> The
>>>> symptoms can begin from early childhood.
>>>>
>>>> The best results were achieved with Mr Terho, who was able to recognise
>>>> cutlery
>>>> and a mug on a table, a clock face and discern seven different shades of
>>>> grey.
>>>> He was also able to move around a room independently and approach
>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>> In further tests he read large letters set out before him, including his
>>>> name,
>>>> which had been deliberately misspelled. He soon noticed it had been
>>>> spelt
>>
>>>> in the
>>>> same way as the Finnish racing driver Mika Hakkinnen.
>>>>
>>>> Three or four days after the implantation, when everything was healed, I
>>>> was
>>>> like wow, there's activity," he told the BBC from his home in Finland.
>>>> "Right after that, if my eye hit the light, then I was able to see
>>>> flashes, some
>>>> activity which I hadn't had.
>>>>
>>>> "Then day after day when we started working with it, practising, then I
>>>> started
>>>> seeing better and better all the time."
>>>>
>>>> Soon Mr Terho was able to read letters by training his mind to bring the
>>>> component lines that comprised the letters together.
>>>>
>>>> The prototype implant has now been removed, but he has been promised an
>>>> upgraded
>>>> version soon. He says it can make a difference to his life.
>>>>
>>>> "What I realised in those days was that it was such a great feeling to
>>>> focus on
>>>> something," he says.
>>>>
>>>> "Even having a limited ability to see with the chip, it will be good for
>>>> orientation, either walking somewhere or being able to see that
>>>> something
>>
>>>> is
>>>> before you even if you don't see all the tiny details of the object."
>>>>
>>>> Electrical impulses
>>>> The chip works by converting light that enters the eye into electrical
>>>> impulses
>>>> which are fed into the optic nerve behind the eye.
>>>>
>>>> It is externally powered and in the initial study was connected to a
>> cable
>>>
>>>> which
>>>> protruded from the skin behind the ear to connect with a battery.
>>>>
>>>> The team are now testing an upgrade in which the device is all contained
>>>> beneath
>>>> the skin, with power delivered though the skin via an external device
>> that
>>>
>>>> clips
>>>> behind the ear.
>>>>
>>>> This is by no means the only approach being taken by scientists to try
>>>> to
>>>> restore some visual ability to people with retinal dysfunction - what's
>>>> called
>>>> retinal dystrophy.
>>>>
>>>> A rival chip by US-based Second Sight that sits on top of the retina has
>>>> already
>>>> been implanted in patients, but that technique requires the patient to
>>>> be
>>
>>>> fitted
>>>> with a camera fixed to a pair of glasses.
>>>>
>>>> Charities gave the news of the latest work a cautious welcome.
>>>>
>>>> David Head, of the British Retinitis Pigmentosa Society, said: "It's
>>>> really
>>>> fascinating work, but it doesn't restore vision. It rather gives people
>>>> signals
>>>> which help them to interpret."
>>>>
>>>> Peoria Blind Center
>>>> www.peoriablindcenter.org
>>>> Here is the name of the group on facebook: PeoriArea Blind People's
>>>> Center. Your friends on facebook are going to have to get on
>>>> their facebook account and search for the group's name to join, or to
>>>> see
>>
>>>> what we are about.
>>>>
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