[nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip'allowsblindpeople to detectobjects'

Judy Jones jtj1 at cableone.net
Sun Nov 14 20:03:41 UTC 2010 

Correct.

Right now at this point, electronic medical records keeping doesn't suggest 
any kind of chipping.  the chipping is a possibility, and worth watching as 
this health care plan unfolds bit by bit.  Keep in mind we are still in the 
back end of 2010.  2013 isn't any point in time most Americans are dealing 
with right now.  If memory serves, page 1004 of the bill addresses the 
issue.

Judy
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> There is no part of the Obama health care plan to start chipping people. 
> At best this is internet legend or at worst spin from those who are 
> opposed to the plan. The only thing that comes close is the use of 
> electronic record keeping which is far from microchipping.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allowsblindpeople to 
> detectobjects'
>
>
>> I'm all in favor of progress, and actually think a chip to replace the 
>> retina would be great, just because of the adventure.  But chip 
>> implantation in general I have real objections to.  The ObamaCare plan is 
>> to start chipping people in 2013 and have it done by 2015.  The 
>> reasoning, of course, is to expedite the health care management.  It 
>> really does make sense outwardly, but the reality is that if an 
>> informational chip is implanted, then it might be possiblt to track your 
>> whereabouts, keep track of your buying and selling patterns, etc.  I am 
>> not interested in being tracked this way.  And this kind of chipping 
>> could be the precursor to what Bible prophecy calls "the mark of the 
>> beast."  Of course, we don't know for sure, but it pays to be watchful.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gloria Whipple" <fairyfoot at webband.com>
>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blindpeople to 
>> detectobjects'
>>
>>
>>>I think it is stupid.
>>>
>>> Being blind doesn't stop me from doing things I like to do.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>
>>> cell number: 509-475-4993
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:15 AM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blind people to
>>> detectobjects'
>>>
>>> Nope.  My brain's just fine like it is.
>>> Honestly, if one adjusts to blindness, why would one want such a thing? 
>>> IF
>>> not well adjusted, then I suppose one might want such a thing.  but, 
>>> what
>>> with the programs we have in place, one would think such a chip 
>>> undesirable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype Name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Gloria Whipple wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have no desires for that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>>
>>>> cell number: 509-475-4993
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Jennifer Aberdeen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:30 AM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blind people to
>>>> detectobjects'
>>>>
>>>> Thank God!
>>>>
>>>> This is great news!
>>>>
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>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>>>> To: <CSDB-ALUMNI at googlegroups.com>
>>>> Cc: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:21 AM
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Fw: Implanted chip 'allows blind people to
>>>> detectobjects'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What do you think about this Article?
>>>>> Ken Chrane
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Lela Behee
>>>>> To: venetian-blind at googlegroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:38 AM
>>>>> Subject: Implanted chip 'allows blind people to detect objects'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Though this may not be helpful for those of us who have prosthetic 
>>>>> eyes
>>>>> and so have no retina, what a very exciting leap forward this is in
>>>>> technology!
>>>>> Praise our Lord!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 November 2010 Last updated at 20:49 ET
>>>>> Implanted chip 'allows blind people to detect objects'
>>>>> By Neil Bowdler Science reporter, BBC News
>>>>>
>>>>> Miikka Terho is given the task of reading letters which together 
>>>>> misspell
>>>
>>>>> his
>>>>> own name
>>>>> A man with an inherited form of blindness has been able to identify
>>>>> letters and
>>>>> a clock face using a pioneering implant, researchers say.
>>>>> Miikka Terho, 46, from Finland, was fitted with an experimental chip
>>>>> behind his
>>>>> retina in Germany. Success was also reported in other patients.
>>>>>
>>>>> The chip allows a patient to detect objects with their eyes, unlike a
>>>>> rival
>>>>> approach that uses an external camera.
>>>>>
>>>>> Details of the work are in the journal Proceedings of the Royal 
>>>>> Society
>>> B.
>>>>>
>>>>> Professor Eberhart Zrenner, of Germany's University of Tuebingen, and
>>>>> colleagues
>>>>> at private company Retina Implant AG initially tested their 
>>>>> sub-retinal
>>>>> chip on
>>>>> 11 people.
>>>>> Some noticed no improvement as their condition was too advanced to
>>> benefit
>>>>
>>>>> from
>>>>> the implant, but a majority were able to pick out bright objects, Prof
>>>>> Zrenner
>>>>> told the BBC.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it was only when the chip was placed further behind the 
>>>>> retina,
>>>>> in the
>>>>> central macular area in three people, that they achieved the best
>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Two of these had lost their vision because of the inherited condition
>>>>> retinitis
>>>>> pigmentosa, or RP, the other because of a related inherited condition
>>>>> called
>>>>> choroideraemia.
>>>>>
>>>>> RP leads to the progressive degeneration of cells in the eye's retina,
>>>>> resulting
>>>>> in night blindness, tunnel vision and then usually permanent 
>>>>> blindness.
>>>>> The
>>>>> symptoms can begin from early childhood.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best results were achieved with Mr Terho, who was able to 
>>>>> recognise
>>>>> cutlery
>>>>> and a mug on a table, a clock face and discern seven different shades 
>>>>> of
>>>>> grey.
>>>>> He was also able to move around a room independently and approach 
>>>>> people.
>>>>>
>>>>> In further tests he read large letters set out before him, including 
>>>>> his
>>>>> name,
>>>>> which had been deliberately misspelled. He soon noticed it had been 
>>>>> spelt
>>>
>>>>> in the
>>>>> same way as the Finnish racing driver Mika Hakkinnen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Three or four days after the implantation, when everything was healed, 
>>>>> I
>>>>> was
>>>>> like wow, there's activity," he told the BBC from his home in Finland.
>>>>> "Right after that, if my eye hit the light, then I was able to see
>>>>> flashes, some
>>>>> activity which I hadn't had.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Then day after day when we started working with it, practising, then 
>>>>> I
>>>>> started
>>>>> seeing better and better all the time."
>>>>>
>>>>> Soon Mr Terho was able to read letters by training his mind to bring 
>>>>> the
>>>>> component lines that comprised the letters together.
>>>>>
>>>>> The prototype implant has now been removed, but he has been promised 
>>>>> an
>>>>> upgraded
>>>>> version soon. He says it can make a difference to his life.
>>>>>
>>>>> "What I realised in those days was that it was such a great feeling to
>>>>> focus on
>>>>> something," he says.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Even having a limited ability to see with the chip, it will be good 
>>>>> for
>>>>> orientation, either walking somewhere or being able to see that 
>>>>> something
>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>> before you even if you don't see all the tiny details of the object."
>>>>>
>>>>> Electrical impulses
>>>>> The chip works by converting light that enters the eye into electrical
>>>>> impulses
>>>>> which are fed into the optic nerve behind the eye.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is externally powered and in the initial study was connected to a
>>> cable
>>>>
>>>>> which
>>>>> protruded from the skin behind the ear to connect with a battery.
>>>>>
>>>>> The team are now testing an upgrade in which the device is all 
>>>>> contained
>>>>> beneath
>>>>> the skin, with power delivered though the skin via an external device
>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> clips
>>>>> behind the ear.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is by no means the only approach being taken by scientists to try 
>>>>> to
>>>>> restore some visual ability to people with retinal dysfunction - 
>>>>> what's
>>>>> called
>>>>> retinal dystrophy.
>>>>>
>>>>> A rival chip by US-based Second Sight that sits on top of the retina 
>>>>> has
>>>>> already
>>>>> been implanted in patients, but that technique requires the patient to 
>>>>> be
>>>
>>>>> fitted
>>>>> with a camera fixed to a pair of glasses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charities gave the news of the latest work a cautious welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Head, of the British Retinitis Pigmentosa Society, said: "It's
>>>>> really
>>>>> fascinating work, but it doesn't restore vision. It rather gives 
>>>>> people
>>>>> signals
>>>>> which help them to interpret."
>>>>>
>>>>> Peoria Blind Center
>>>>> www.peoriablindcenter.org
>>>>> Here is the name of the group on facebook: PeoriArea Blind People's
>>>>> Center.  Your friends on facebook are going to have to get on
>>>>> their facebook account and search for the group's name to join, or to 
>>>>> see
>>>
>>>>> what we are about.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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