[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

Tue Jul 5 20:49:23 UTC 2011

you say the leaders want everyone to attend in person?

the leaders refuse to budge about adjusting the dates so they don't land on 
4th of july weekend.
i had much more fun camping with friends than i would ever had sitting in a 
chair listening to a person speaking all day and friends that want to be 
with me instead of trying to find someone to eat/do things with after the 
sessions.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

> The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge progress.
> Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none of 
> it
> would be streamed.  The leadership wanted all to attend in person.  Not 
> via
> internet.  The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are being
> streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what Marc
> stated to me long ago.
>
> I am hoping to catch a little of it.  So I hope they get the kinks worked
> out soon.
>
> Thanks, William
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of James Aldrich
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
> Hi Dave  and list,
>
> To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things would 
> be
>
> worse (grin smile)!  I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio files.
>
> The problem is not those involved with the stream!  One is doing the best
> they can with what they have available!  I'm certain good people are
> involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing!  The 
> problem
>
> is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment may
> work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it!  This nonsense
> of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
> perhaps.  I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked!  It
> is that plain and simple to me!  The opposition not only streams their
> convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in its
> intirity throughout  the year!  Anyone who can stand to hear it can do so!
> I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we have!
> We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to something! 
> It
>
> gets done!  This is one of the things which needs to work much better than
> it has!  What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
> Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother?  I would like to be
> bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen later!
> This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
> listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
> Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
> which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something! 
> Perhaps
>
> it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation, what a
> novel idea!  I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various entaties 
> to
> achieve a more successful dependable stream!  If various states can stream
> their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly?  I 
> think
> if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the convention
> itself or whether at home or on the go!  This definitely is one area where
> the NFB hasn't done its job as well  as it could be done! How cool it 
> would
> be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!
>
> I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things but I
> don't!  The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is flawed
> because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the stream
> doesn't work, why bother?
>
> I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at convention
> would be a good time to address this issue especially when one considers 
> the
>
> rising costs of everything!  If I could listen dependably, I could Email 
> or
> phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to 
> vote
>
> on certain matters!  One could participate in this way and the NFB would 
> be
> available for all the world to hear if they wished!  Our critics say we
> aren't an open and above board organization!  Therefore, some might say 
> this
>
> is why streaming isn't a priority!
>
> All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!
>
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>> Jim:
>>
>> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach?  Were you
>> involved in the planning and execution?
>>
>> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem to 
>> be
>
>> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on.  They are 
>> trying
>
>> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule, URL's
>> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to me.
>>
>>
>> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever saw 
>> on
>
>> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100.  So people
>> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like it
>> is that widely used to me.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>Hello
>>>All!
>>>
>>>I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming audio
>>>especially when it comes to conventions.  I fully realize that this is an
>>>expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
>>>expense could be justified.  Until that happens,we will always have this
>>>roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions.  I wish it weren't so 
>>>but
>
>>>one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
>>>Monitor comes out.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>I can't hear anything.  When I try to open up the windows media stream, 
>>>>I
>
>>>>get a page error.  Same thing with all the other streams.  I have a
>>>>direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no audio
>>>>either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what they're
>>>>doing!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>>Skype name:
>>>>barefootedray
>>>>
>>>>Facebook:
>>>>facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right if
>>>>>you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
>>>>>>Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
>>>>>>starting time!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Skype name:
>>>>>>barefootedray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Facebook:
>>>>>>facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>
>>
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