[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

[d m gina]

When I lived in Denver, I went to a convention of acb, where I was 
starting to begg persons to have dinner with me.
After I got home, I went home early, I was told it was to bad I didn't 
know where they were, they would have dinner with me.
I sure understand what you are saying.

Original message:
> you say the leaders want everyone to attend in person?

> the leaders refuse to budge about adjusting the dates so they don't land on
> 4th of july weekend.
> i had much more fun camping with friends than i would ever had sitting in a
> chair listening to a person speaking all day and friends that want to be
> with me instead of trying to find someone to eat/do things with after the
> sessions.

> Bryan Schulz

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on


>> The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge progress.
>> Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none of
>> it
>> would be streamed.  The leadership wanted all to attend in person.  Not
>> via
>> internet.  The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are being
>> streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what Marc
>> stated to me long ago.

>> I am hoping to catch a little of it.  So I hope they get the kinks worked
>> out soon.

>> Thanks, William

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of James Aldrich
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

>> Hi Dave  and list,

>> To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things would
>> be

>> worse (grin smile)!  I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio files.

>> The problem is not those involved with the stream!  One is doing the best
>> they can with what they have available!  I'm certain good people are
>> involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing!  The
>> problem

>> is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment may
>> work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it!  This nonsense
>> of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
>> perhaps.  I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked!  It
>> is that plain and simple to me!  The opposition not only streams their
>> convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in its
>> intirity throughout  the year!  Anyone who can stand to hear it can do so!
>> I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we have!
>> We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to something!
>> It

>> gets done!  This is one of the things which needs to work much better than
>> it has!  What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
>> Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother?  I would like to be
>> bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen later!
>> This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
>> listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
>> Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
>> which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something!
>> Perhaps

>> it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation, what a
>> novel idea!  I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various entaties
>> to
>> achieve a more successful dependable stream!  If various states can stream
>> their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly?  I
>> think
>> if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the convention
>> itself or whether at home or on the go!  This definitely is one area where
>> the NFB hasn't done its job as well  as it could be done! How cool it
>> would
>> be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!

>> I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things but I
>> don't!  The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is flawed
>> because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the stream
>> doesn't work, why bother?

>> I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at convention
>> would be a good time to address this issue especially when one considers
>> the

>> rising costs of everything!  If I could listen dependably, I could Email
>> or
>> phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to
>> vote

>> on certain matters!  One could participate in this way and the NFB would
>> be
>> available for all the world to hear if they wished!  Our critics say we
>> aren't an open and above board organization!  Therefore, some might say
>> this

>> is why streaming isn't a priority!

>> All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!

>> Jim


>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on


>>> Jim:

>>> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach?  Were you
>>> involved in the planning and execution?

>>> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem to
>>> be

>>> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on.  They are
>>> trying

>>> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule, URL's
>>> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to me.


>>> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever saw
>>> on

>>> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100.  So people
>>> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like it
>>> is that widely used to me.

>>> Dave

>>> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>> All!

>>>> I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming audio
>>>> especially when it comes to conventions.  I fully realize that this is an
>>>> expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
>>>> expense could be justified.  Until that happens,we will always have this
>>>> roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions.  I wish it weren't so
>>>> but

>>>> one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
>>>> Monitor comes out.

>>>> Jim

>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on


>>>>> I can't hear anything.  When I try to open up the windows media stream,
>>>>> I

>>>>> get a page error.  Same thing with all the other streams.  I have a
>>>>> direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no audio
>>>>> either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what they're
>>>>> doing!


>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>> barefootedray

>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:

>>>>>> ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right if
>>>>>> you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on


>>>>>>> Hey,

>>>>>>> I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
>>>>>>> Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
>>>>>>> starting time!!!!


>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>> barefootedray

>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1


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