[nfb-talk] Convention Hotels

Thu Jul 7 00:03:41 UTC 2011

I doubt it will be in the Twin Cities -- for the foreseeable future, 
not enough big hotels.

The ACB was here a few years back -- but they have more like 1000 or 
1200 people, where we run 3000 to 3500.

I thought you lived in North Carolina?  Retired to MN?

Dave

\At 05:03 PM 7/6/2011, you wrote:
>I liked it when it was at the Galt House in Louisville -- it has been there
>several times, and it is nice because it is located toward the middle of the
>country so more of those who travel won't have so far to go.
>Everyone likes Orlando as it is a city for tourists, but my family almost
>never gets down that way.
>
>Now that being said, how about putting it right down the road from me here
>in east central Minnesota? The twin cities are just a short drive for us,
>and in July the weather is beautiful.  (Now I should admit the one
>drawback -- bugs and mosquitos... Oh well, nowhere is perfect.)
>Happy conferencing.
>--le
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeanette Fortin" <jeanette at fortin-home.com>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>i think it is in flordia two more times as i remember. jeanette
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
> > Ah, I think it would be good to have the convention in a different place
> > each time!
> > Maybe they will go back to florida; that is a good place to hold a
> > convention.  Since this is a first, maybe they will try new cities again.
> > Ashley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cindy Handel
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:34 PM
> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> >
> > I think they have deals made with hotels in certain cities and that's why
> > the convention keeps going between Atlanta and Dallas.  Orlando is
> > different, this year.  But, it's not like it used to be when we'd go to a
> > different place each year.  Those were the good old days.  No one can
> > negotiate hotels like Dr. Jernigan could.
> >
> > Cindy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> > To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 5:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> >
> >
> > I would love to see the convention come west again, either to Colorado
> > Denver or Colorado Springs.
> > Closer to my home Montana.
> > I understand why they wish not to come to Montana, but to Colorado
> > because hotel rates are to high, I don't know about that one.
> >
> > Original message:
> >> Brian,
> >
> >> I would agree.  When I asked Marc why they did not change the date of
> >> Convention giving reasons similar to yours, and also pointing out that
> >> cheaper hotel rates could probably be gotten at other times.  The answer
> >> was
> >> given that the July Conventions are what the membership want.
> >
> >> Now the one time I actually observed a vote on changing the date and
> >> location of Convention than the ones we constantly go to took place, I
> >> believed that the majority as a hole voted to change date and location to
> >> include other cities and get cheaper rates.  It sounded quite clear to me
> >> the membership wanted more varied locations and times.  However, Marc
> >> said
> >> that the motion to expand locations and times failed.  The State by State
> >> vote was then called for.  Naturally the result of the votes of the 50
> >> State
> >> Presidents was to leave the Convention date as it is currently.
> >
> >> Not really a majority decision.  But a decision made using the rules of
> >> the
> >> body as agreed upon.  I haven't been back to a Convention since.  Nor do
> >> I
> >> plan to, as long as they are in the middle of summer; when I'd prefer to
> >> be
> >> on the beach.  I guess you can call that, "William being a sore loser."
> >> I
> >> call it using my personal time as I see fit.  Should they try having it
> >> in
> >> Orlando in January, I think I might try to attend the Convention.  I'd
> >> much
> >> rather be in central Florida In January then now.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks, William
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:49 PM
> >> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> >
> >> you say the leaders want everyone to attend in person?
> >
> >> the leaders refuse to budge about adjusting the dates so they don't land
> >> on
> >> 4th of july weekend.
> >> i had much more fun camping with friends than i would ever had sitting in
> >> a
> >> chair listening to a person speaking all day and friends that want to be
> >> with me instead of trying to find someone to eat/do things with after the
> >> sessions.
> >
> >> Bryan Schulz
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:18 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> >
> >
> >>> The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge progress.
> >>> Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none of
> >>> it
> >>> would be streamed.  The leadership wanted all to attend in person.  Not
> >>> via
> >>> internet.  The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are
> >>> being
> >>> streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what
> >>> Marc
> >>> stated to me long ago.
> >
> >>> I am hoping to catch a little of it.  So I hope they get the kinks
> >>> worked
> >>> out soon.
> >
> >>> Thanks, William
> >
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>> On
> >>> Behalf Of James Aldrich
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
> >>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> >
> >>> Hi Dave  and list,
> >
> >>> To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things
> >>> would
> >>> be
> >
> >>> worse (grin smile)!  I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio
> >>> files.
> >
> >>> The problem is not those involved with the stream!  One is doing the
> >>> best
> >>> they can with what they have available!  I'm certain good people are
> >>> involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing!  The
> >>> problem
> >
> >>> is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment
> >>> may
> >>> work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it!  This
> >>> nonsense
> >>> of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
> >>> perhaps.  I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked!
> >>> It
> >>> is that plain and simple to me!  The opposition not only streams their
> >>> convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in
> >>> its
> >>> intirity throughout  the year!  Anyone who can stand to hear it can do
> >>> so!
> >>> I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we
> >>> have!
> >>> We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to something!
> >>> It
> >
> >>> gets done!  This is one of the things which needs to work much better
> >>> than
> >>> it has!  What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
> >>> Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother?  I would like to be
> >>> bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen
> >>> later!
> >>> This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
> >>> listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
> >>> Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
> >>> which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something!
> >>> Perhaps
> >
> >>> it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation, what
> >>> a
> >>> novel idea!  I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various entaties
> >>> to
> >>> achieve a more successful dependable stream!  If various states can
> >>> stream
> >>> their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly?  I
> >>> think
> >>> if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the convention
> >>> itself or whether at home or on the go!  This definitely is one area
> >>> where
> >>> the NFB hasn't done its job as well  as it could be done! How cool it
> >>> would
> >>> be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!
> >
> >>> I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things but
> >>> I
> >>> don't!  The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is
> >>> flawed
> >>> because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the
> >>> stream
> >>> doesn't work, why bother?
> >
> >>> I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at
> >>> convention
> >>> would be a good time to address this issue especially when one considers
> >>> the
> >
> >>> rising costs of everything!  If I could listen dependably, I could Email
> >>> or
> >>> phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to
> >>> vote
> >
> >>> on certain matters!  One could participate in this way and the NFB would
> >>> be
> >>> available for all the world to hear if they wished!  Our critics say we
> >>> aren't an open and above board organization!  Therefore, some might say
> >>> this
> >
> >>> is why streaming isn't a priority!
> >
> >>> All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!
> >
> >>> Jim
> >
> >
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> >>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> >
> >
> >>>> Jim:
> >
> >>>> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach?  Were
> >>>> you
> >>>> involved in the planning and execution?
> >
> >>>> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem to
> >>>> be
> >
> >>>> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on.  They are
> >>>> trying
> >
> >>>> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule,
> >>>> URL's
> >>>> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to
> >>>> me.
> >
> >
> >>>> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever saw
> >>>> on
> >
> >>>> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100.  So
> >>>> people
> >>>> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like
> >>>> it
> >>>> is that widely used to me.
> >
> >>>> Dave
> >
> >>>> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
> >>>>> Hello
> >>>>> All!
> >
> >>>>> I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming audio
> >>>>> especially when it comes to conventions.  I fully realize that this is
> >>>>> an
> >>>>> expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
> >>>>> expense could be justified.  Until that happens,we will always have
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions.  I wish it weren't so
> >>>>> but
> >
> >>>>> one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
> >>>>> Monitor comes out.
> >
> >>>>> Jim
> >
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> >>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> >
> >
> >>>>>> I can't hear anything.  When I try to open up the windows media
> >>>>>> stream,
> >>>>>> I
> >
> >>>>>> get a page error.  Same thing with all the other streams.  I have a
> >>>>>> direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no audio
> >>>>>> either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what
> >>>>>> they're
> >>>>>> doing!
> >
> >
> >>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> >>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >
> >>>>>> Skype name:
> >>>>>> barefootedray
> >
> >>>>>> Facebook:
> >>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:
> >
> >>>>>>> ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>> you turn your volume way up you can here it.
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> >>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>> Hey,
> >
> >>>>>>>> I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
> >>>>>>>> Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
> >>>>>>>> starting time!!!!
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> >>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >
> >>>>>>>> Skype name:
> >>>>>>>> barefootedray
> >
> >>>>>>>> Facebook:
> >>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> >
> >
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