[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Sun Jul 10 21:32:22 UTC 2011

Brian:

You and I are on the same wavelength. I can't speak to California but I know
it's gotten *much* harder to get *any* contract concessions from hotels here
in the state of Washington in the time between 1996 and now. It's a whole
different ballgame. But, like you, I wish we had conventions out here.
Either that or charter an airline. (grin)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
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Hi Mike,

Well, I'm not one to casually quaff poison, but I wonder if there has been
much effort to secure sub-$100 rooms outside of the south in recent years
(Detroit notwithstanding)?  We got fabulous rates at the Anaheim Hilton in
1996, after all.  

I also think that perhaps $80-$90 could be considered, given that many
conventioneers  share rooms, and, that we've shortened the week by one day.

I very much appreciate the conscientiousness of our leadership and
convention planners to keep costs as absolutely low as possible given the
economic hardships too many of our fellow federationists experience, but I
do wish we would at least make an effort to spread our wings a little
further... And perhaps we have done so, but to no avail, I simply don't know
personally.  

Brian M

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:55 PM
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I don't think 2018 has been set yet. And the emails here point out that one
person's tea is another person's poison. But I do wish the conventions were
out here on the Left Coast occasionally. But unless enough people vote to
allow rates to go up to over $100 a night at a minimum, it ain't a-gonna
happen.

Mike

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It would be great to have it in FL in 2018! I'd try to make that one! As to
the east coast, why not?
Several cities on the east coast could handle the convention size. As I live
on the east coast, this would be much more convenient to me. I could get a
ride or take the train.
It was in Phililidelphia one year and that would be a convenient place to
have it again.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Miller
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Hi Mike,

So we will be in Orlando in 2018?

I seem to recall that our 1996 convention in Anaheim, the last one on the
west coast, rivaled, but did not beat, our attendance in New Orleans in
1997.  And New Orleans, I believe, has not been beat for attendance in the
14 years since we were there.

I have to believe that Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Salt Lake,
and a half dozen other places could easily handle a convention the size of
ours.  I have to think that it helps our bottom line to be on the east
coast, or no more than a 2.5 hour flight from it, as we send a whole lot of
people from Baltimore, which could make a west coast venture expensive.

Brian M

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Ray:

That's also what I remember.

I don't remember who asked but the 2013 convention may not be at the Rosen
Shingle Creek Resort but may be at one of the other rosen properties, as,
for example, the rosen Center which was one of the overflow hotels. One of
the contract terms for conventions at rosen properties is that Rosen Hotels
gets to choose the venue from three (I believe) Rosen properties in the
area.

I will forbear from entering extensively into the debate about where
conventions should be held. In fact, I, too, wish conventions could be held
in the West. For some of us, airfare tends to erase much of the savings we
get with our wonderfully low hotel rates. However, as David Andrews has
pointed out, when we were at hotels West of the Mississippi, we had much
smaller attendance than we do now. We're too big for many of the hotels we
used to use and not quite large enough for the megahotels that handle
conventions of ten thousand or more. As Joseph Carter has pointed out, we
face a Hobson's choice in trying to negotiate convention venues. And we're
having to eat shuttle costs.

But even though cost of air travel to Orlando from Portland, Oregon, was
outrageous, this was one of the best conventions I've been to in many, many
years.

Mike Freeman

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

I believe the dead zone was on TMobile.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
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On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Mike Freeman wrote:

> My AT&T phone worked everywhere I tried it.
>
> Mike
>
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 0:53, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>
>> Not to mention which, one of the dead zones just happens to be right 
>> at
the platform itself.  A rather embarrasing fact for one fellow who was going
to give a demonstration of the Icon 18 or something.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 11:43 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer was
really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can work
something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat.  I certainly
have no objection to the hotel making money-but the incidental fees are both
too high and too frequent to be comfortable.  There isn't even lobby wifi
access without a fee, and the hotel is full of cellular dead zones.
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>
>>>> Brian M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherri
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>
>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013 
>>>> through 2017 will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the 
>>>> length of the convention back to how it was and NFB would organize
tours for Wednesday afternoon.
>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to 
>>>> go
places.
>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep 
>>>> people here for five years in a row, we need to give them ample 
>>>> opportunity to take advantage of all there is to do in Orlando.
>>>> Besides, I like the banquet the night before the last day of
convention.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
>>>> John Lennon
>>>>
>>>> Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>
>>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>> NFBF NewslineR chair
>>>> www.nfbnewsline.org
>>>> Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter http://nfbfgoc.org 
>>>> Secretary FDCP INC www.fdcp.org Chair Orange County Disability 
>>>> Advisory Committee
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