[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Mon Jul 11 21:07:51 UTC 2011

I would think that video and audio could be set up to solve the problem of 
not enough space in one room.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Miller" <brian-r-miller at uiowa.edu>
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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

> It would be awesome, and cruises really aren't that expensive -- often on 
> a
> per day basis, it's cheaper than a vacation on dry land.  There are mega
> ships that could hold all of us, and they often have lots of meeting 
> space,
> but, they do not have a single room that could hold 2,500 people at one
> time.  Alas.
>
> Brian M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jessica
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>
> Oh man. A cruise would be awesome. If I remember correctly the ACB did
> something like that one year.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:39 AM, "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a state affiliate, we have bantered back and forth about a convention
> cruise. You don't have to pay for food since it is included in the price.
> There are meeting rooms and cruise ships hold thousands of people. What 
> does
> everyone think? (smile).
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>>
>>> I could go for Hawaii *smile*
>>> I was there a semester and would love an excuse to spend the money to
>>> take some family members out that way.
>>> I also have never been to Alaska. (Hey, it's summer after all.)  Or
>>> while we're at it, go to Jamaica or the Bahamas...
>>> I know, won't happen, but I can dream.
>>> --le
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Miller"
>>> <brian-r-miller at uiowa.edu>
>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mike and all,
>>>
>>> I also have to think there is a preference on the part of our
>>> national leadership to focus less time and energy on  finding new
>>> locations each year and on doing the work of the organization -- 
>>> which is to make sure the voice of the blind is heard, not to run
> conventions.
>>>
>>> Therefore locking in arrangements for half a decade must result in a
>>> significant amount of relief on the part of the office in Baltimore
>>> and presumably free up time better spent on fighting discrimination
>>> against the blind.
>>>
>>> However, it also can be said we have far more staff on hand to do the
>>> legwork than we once did back when we were moving all around the 
>>> country.
>>>
>>> I say let's all go to Hawaii... We'll take a year off, save some
>>> money, sell tons of the World's Finest Chocolate, and have the
>>> convention of a lifetime... What say ye?  *smile*
>>>
>>> Brian M
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:32 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>> Brian:
>>>
>>> You and I are on the same wavelength. I can't speak to California but
>>> I know it's gotten *much* harder to get *any* contract concessions
>>> from hotels here in the state of Washington in the time between 1996
>>> and now. It's a whole different ballgame. But, like you, I wish we had
> conventions out here.
>>> Either that or charter an airline. (grin)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brian Miller
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:05 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Well, I'm not one to casually quaff poison, but I wonder if there has
>>> been much effort to secure sub-$100 rooms outside of the south in
>>> recent years (Detroit notwithstanding)?  We got fabulous rates at the
>>> Anaheim Hilton in 1996, after all.
>>>
>>> I also think that perhaps $80-$90 could be considered, given that
>>> many conventioneers  share rooms, and, that we've shortened the week by
> one day.
>>>
>>>
>>> I very much appreciate the conscientiousness of our leadership and
>>> convention planners to keep costs as absolutely low as possible given
>>> the economic hardships too many of our fellow federationists
>>> experience, but I do wish we would at least make an effort to spread
>>> our wings a little further... And perhaps we have done so, but to no
>>> avail, I simply don't know personally.
>>>
>>> Brian M
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:55 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>> I don't think 2018 has been set yet. And the emails here point out
>>> that one person's tea is another person's poison. But I do wish the
>>> conventions were out here on the Left Coast occasionally. But unless
>>> enough people vote to allow rates to go up to over $100 a night at a
>>> minimum, it ain't a-gonna happen.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:25 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>> It would be great to have it in FL in 2018! I'd try to make that one!
>>> As to the east coast, why not?
>>> Several cities on the east coast could handle the convention size. As
>>> I live on the east coast, this would be much more convenient to me. I
>>> could get a ride or take the train.
>>> It was in Phililidelphia one year and that would be a convenient
>>> place to have it again.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brian Miller
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:59 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> So we will be in Orlando in 2018?
>>>
>>> I seem to recall that our 1996 convention in Anaheim, the last one on
>>> the west coast, rivaled, but did not beat, our attendance in New
>>> Orleans in 1997.  And New Orleans, I believe, has not been beat for
>>> attendance in the
>>> 14 years since we were there.
>>>
>>> I have to believe that Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Salt
>>> Lake, and a half dozen other places could easily handle a convention
>>> the size of ours.  I have to think that it helps our bottom line to
>>> be on the east coast, or no more than a 2.5 hour flight from it, as
>>> we send a whole lot of people from Baltimore, which could make a west
> coast venture expensive.
>>>
>>> Brian M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:44 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>> Ray:
>>>
>>> That's also what I remember.
>>>
>>> I don't remember who asked but the 2013 convention may not be at the
>>> Rosen Shingle Creek Resort but may be at one of the other rosen
>>> properties, as, for example, the rosen Center which was one of the
>>> overflow hotels. One of the contract terms for conventions at rosen
>>> properties is that Rosen Hotels gets to choose the venue from three
>>> (I believe) Rosen properties in the area.
>>>
>>> I will forbear from entering extensively into the debate about where
>>> conventions should be held. In fact, I, too, wish conventions could
>>> be held in the West. For some of us, airfare tends to erase much of
>>> the savings we get with our wonderfully low hotel rates. However, as
>>> David Andrews has pointed out, when we were at hotels West of the
>>> Mississippi, we had much smaller attendance than we do now. We're too
>>> big for many of the hotels we used to use and not quite large enough
>>> for the megahotels that handle conventions of ten thousand or more.
>>> As Joseph Carter has pointed out, we face a Hobson's choice in trying
>>> to negotiate convention venues. And we're having to eat shuttle costs.
>>>
>>> But even though cost of air travel to Orlando from Portland, Oregon,
>>> was outrageous, this was one of the best conventions I've been to in
>>> many, many years.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:08 AM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>> I believe the dead zone was on TMobile.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Mike Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> My AT&T phone worked everywhere I tried it.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 0:53, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention which, one of the dead zones just happens to be
>>>>> right at
>>> the platform itself.  A rather embarrasing fact for one fellow who
>>> was going to give a demonstration of the Icon 18 or something.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>
>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 11:43 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer
>>>>>> was
>>> really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can
>>> work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat.  I
>>> certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>> incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be comfortable.
>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is full
> of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013
>>>>>>> through 2017 will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the
>>>>>>> length of the convention back to how it was and NFB would
>>>>>>> organize
>>> tours for Wednesday afternoon.
>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to
>>>>>>> go
>>> places.
>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep
>>>>>>> people here for five years in a row, we need to give them ample
>>>>>>> opportunity to take advantage of all there is to do in Orlando.
>>>>>>> Besides, I like the banquet the night before the last day of
>>> convention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
>>>>>>> John Lennon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> NFBF NewslineR chair
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>>>>>>> Advisory Committee
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