[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

Tue Jul 12 11:04:22 UTC 2011

The NFB convention will be in Orlando, florida, in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 
2017, and 2018.
I heard this from President Marc Maurer last week, when I attended the NFB 
Convention in Orlando, Florida.
It was a great convention.

Ken Chrane

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeanette Fortin" <jeanette at fortin-home.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

> as i understand it from asking the big guys is they have to have a hotel 
> that can hold the ammount of folks who attend, i guess they had it in 
> denver once and had to use more than one hotel like in detroit a few years 
> ago, makes it harder for everyone to get to everything, i personally like 
> dallas and am looking forward to it next year but i understand folks are 
> tired of dallas because it has been  there a lot, but i also understand 
> from the convention last year it is going to be in florida every other 
> year for two or three more times.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>>I would love to see the convention come west again, either to Colorado 
>>Denver or Colorado Springs.
>> Closer to my home Montana.
>> I understand why they wish not to come to Montana, but to Colorado 
>> because hotel rates are to high, I don't know about that one.
>>
>> Original message:
>>> Brian,
>>
>>> I would agree.  When I asked Marc why they did not change the date of
>>> Convention giving reasons similar to yours, and also pointing out that
>>> cheaper hotel rates could probably be gotten at other times.  The answer 
>>> was
>>> given that the July Conventions are what the membership want.
>>
>>> Now the one time I actually observed a vote on changing the date and
>>> location of Convention than the ones we constantly go to took place, I
>>> believed that the majority as a hole voted to change date and location 
>>> to
>>> include other cities and get cheaper rates.  It sounded quite clear to 
>>> me
>>> the membership wanted more varied locations and times.  However, Marc 
>>> said
>>> that the motion to expand locations and times failed.  The State by 
>>> State
>>> vote was then called for.  Naturally the result of the votes of the 50 
>>> State
>>> Presidents was to leave the Convention date as it is currently.
>>
>>> Not really a majority decision.  But a decision made using the rules of 
>>> the
>>> body as agreed upon.  I haven't been back to a Convention since.  Nor do 
>>> I
>>> plan to, as long as they are in the middle of summer; when I'd prefer to 
>>> be
>>> on the beach.  I guess you can call that, "William being a sore loser." 
>>> I
>>> call it using my personal time as I see fit.  Should they try having it 
>>> in
>>> Orlando in January, I think I might try to attend the Convention.  I'd 
>>> much
>>> rather be in central Florida In January then now.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, William
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:49 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>>> you say the leaders want everyone to attend in person?
>>
>>> the leaders refuse to budge about adjusting the dates so they don't land 
>>> on
>>> 4th of july weekend.
>>> i had much more fun camping with friends than i would ever had sitting 
>>> in a
>>> chair listening to a person speaking all day and friends that want to be
>>> with me instead of trying to find someone to eat/do things with after 
>>> the
>>> sessions.
>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>>
>>>> The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge 
>>>> progress.
>>>> Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none 
>>>> of
>>>> it
>>>> would be streamed.  The leadership wanted all to attend in person.  Not
>>>> via
>>>> internet.  The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are 
>>>> being
>>>> streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what 
>>>> Marc
>>>> stated to me long ago.
>>
>>>> I am hoping to catch a little of it.  So I hope they get the kinks 
>>>> worked
>>>> out soon.
>>
>>>> Thanks, William
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of James Aldrich
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>>>> Hi Dave  and list,
>>
>>>> To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things 
>>>> would
>>>> be
>>
>>>> worse (grin smile)!  I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio 
>>>> files.
>>
>>>> The problem is not those involved with the stream!  One is doing the 
>>>> best
>>>> they can with what they have available!  I'm certain good people are
>>>> involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing!  The
>>>> problem
>>
>>>> is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment 
>>>> may
>>>> work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it!  This 
>>>> nonsense
>>>> of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
>>>> perhaps.  I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked! 
>>>> It
>>>> is that plain and simple to me!  The opposition not only streams their
>>>> convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in 
>>>> its
>>>> intirity throughout  the year!  Anyone who can stand to hear it can do 
>>>> so!
>>>> I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we 
>>>> have!
>>>> We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to 
>>>> something!
>>>> It
>>
>>>> gets done!  This is one of the things which needs to work much better 
>>>> than
>>>> it has!  What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
>>>> Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother?  I would like to be
>>>> bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen 
>>>> later!
>>>> This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
>>>> listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
>>>> Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
>>>> which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something!
>>>> Perhaps
>>
>>>> it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation, 
>>>> what a
>>>> novel idea!  I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various 
>>>> entaties
>>>> to
>>>> achieve a more successful dependable stream!  If various states can 
>>>> stream
>>>> their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly?  I
>>>> think
>>>> if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the 
>>>> convention
>>>> itself or whether at home or on the go!  This definitely is one area 
>>>> where
>>>> the NFB hasn't done its job as well  as it could be done! How cool it
>>>> would
>>>> be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!
>>
>>>> I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things 
>>>> but I
>>>> don't!  The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is 
>>>> flawed
>>>> because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the 
>>>> stream
>>>> doesn't work, why bother?
>>
>>>> I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at 
>>>> convention
>>>> would be a good time to address this issue especially when one 
>>>> considers
>>>> the
>>
>>>> rising costs of everything!  If I could listen dependably, I could 
>>>> Email
>>>> or
>>>> phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to
>>>> vote
>>
>>>> on certain matters!  One could participate in this way and the NFB 
>>>> would
>>>> be
>>>> available for all the world to hear if they wished!  Our critics say we
>>>> aren't an open and above board organization!  Therefore, some might say
>>>> this
>>
>>>> is why streaming isn't a priority!
>>
>>>> All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!
>>
>>>> Jim
>>
>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>>
>>>>> Jim:
>>
>>>>> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach?  Were 
>>>>> you
>>>>> involved in the planning and execution?
>>
>>>>> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem 
>>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>
>>>>> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on.  They are
>>>>> trying
>>
>>>>> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule, 
>>>>> URL's
>>>>> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to 
>>>>> me.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever 
>>>>> saw
>>>>> on
>>
>>>>> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100.  So 
>>>>> people
>>>>> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like 
>>>>> it
>>>>> is that widely used to me.
>>
>>>>> Dave
>>
>>>>> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>> All!
>>
>>>>>> I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming 
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>> especially when it comes to conventions.  I fully realize that this 
>>>>>> is an
>>>>>> expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
>>>>>> expense could be justified.  Until that happens,we will always have 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions.  I wish it weren't 
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> but
>>
>>>>>> one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
>>>>>> Monitor comes out.
>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>>
>>>>>>> I can't hear anything.  When I try to open up the windows media 
>>>>>>> stream,
>>>>>>> I
>>
>>>>>>> get a page error.  Same thing with all the other streams.  I have a
>>>>>>> direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no 
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what 
>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>> doing!
>>
>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>
>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right 
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" 
>>>>>>>> <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>
>>>>>>>>> I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
>>>>>>>>> Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
>>>>>>>>> starting time!!!!
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>
>>>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>
>>
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