[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Tue Jul 12 15:37:48 UTC 2011
I do not believe 2018's location has been set yet.
Mike
On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:04, "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net> wrote:
> The NFB convention will be in Orlando, florida, in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
> I heard this from President Marc Maurer last week, when I attended the NFB Convention in Orlando, Florida.
> It was a great convention.
>
> Ken Chrane
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Fortin" <jeanette at fortin-home.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>> as i understand it from asking the big guys is they have to have a hotel that can hold the ammount of folks who attend, i guess they had it in denver once and had to use more than one hotel like in detroit a few years ago, makes it harder for everyone to get to everything, i personally like dallas and am looking forward to it next year but i understand folks are tired of dallas because it has been there a lot, but i also understand from the convention last year it is going to be in florida every other year for two or three more times.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 3:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>>
>>> I would love to see the convention come west again, either to Colorado Denver or Colorado Springs.
>>> Closer to my home Montana.
>>> I understand why they wish not to come to Montana, but to Colorado because hotel rates are to high, I don't know about that one.
>>>
>>> Original message:
>>>> Brian,
>>>
>>>> I would agree. When I asked Marc why they did not change the date of
>>>> Convention giving reasons similar to yours, and also pointing out that
>>>> cheaper hotel rates could probably be gotten at other times. The answer was
>>>> given that the July Conventions are what the membership want.
>>>
>>>> Now the one time I actually observed a vote on changing the date and
>>>> location of Convention than the ones we constantly go to took place, I
>>>> believed that the majority as a hole voted to change date and location to
>>>> include other cities and get cheaper rates. It sounded quite clear to me
>>>> the membership wanted more varied locations and times. However, Marc said
>>>> that the motion to expand locations and times failed. The State by State
>>>> vote was then called for. Naturally the result of the votes of the 50 State
>>>> Presidents was to leave the Convention date as it is currently.
>>>
>>>> Not really a majority decision. But a decision made using the rules of the
>>>> body as agreed upon. I haven't been back to a Convention since. Nor do I
>>>> plan to, as long as they are in the middle of summer; when I'd prefer to be
>>>> on the beach. I guess you can call that, "William being a sore loser." I
>>>> call it using my personal time as I see fit. Should they try having it in
>>>> Orlando in January, I think I might try to attend the Convention. I'd much
>>>> rather be in central Florida In January then now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks, William
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:49 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>> you say the leaders want everyone to attend in person?
>>>
>>>> the leaders refuse to budge about adjusting the dates so they don't land on
>>>> 4th of july weekend.
>>>> i had much more fun camping with friends than i would ever had sitting in a
>>>> chair listening to a person speaking all day and friends that want to be
>>>> with me instead of trying to find someone to eat/do things with after the
>>>> sessions.
>>>
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>> The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge progress.
>>>>> Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none of
>>>>> it
>>>>> would be streamed. The leadership wanted all to attend in person. Not
>>>>> via
>>>>> internet. The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are being
>>>>> streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what Marc
>>>>> stated to me long ago.
>>>
>>>>> I am hoping to catch a little of it. So I hope they get the kinks worked
>>>>> out soon.
>>>
>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of James Aldrich
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave and list,
>>>
>>>>> To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things would
>>>>> be
>>>
>>>>> worse (grin smile)! I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio files.
>>>
>>>>> The problem is not those involved with the stream! One is doing the best
>>>>> they can with what they have available! I'm certain good people are
>>>>> involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing! The
>>>>> problem
>>>
>>>>> is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment may
>>>>> work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it! This nonsense
>>>>> of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
>>>>> perhaps. I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked! It
>>>>> is that plain and simple to me! The opposition not only streams their
>>>>> convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in its
>>>>> intirity throughout the year! Anyone who can stand to hear it can do so!
>>>>> I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we have!
>>>>> We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to something!
>>>>> It
>>>
>>>>> gets done! This is one of the things which needs to work much better than
>>>>> it has! What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
>>>>> Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother? I would like to be
>>>>> bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen later!
>>>>> This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
>>>>> listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
>>>>> Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
>>>>> which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something!
>>>>> Perhaps
>>>
>>>>> it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation, what a
>>>>> novel idea! I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various entaties
>>>>> to
>>>>> achieve a more successful dependable stream! If various states can stream
>>>>> their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly? I
>>>>> think
>>>>> if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the convention
>>>>> itself or whether at home or on the go! This definitely is one area where
>>>>> the NFB hasn't done its job as well as it could be done! How cool it
>>>>> would
>>>>> be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!
>>>
>>>>> I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things but I
>>>>> don't! The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is flawed
>>>>> because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the stream
>>>>> doesn't work, why bother?
>>>
>>>>> I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at convention
>>>>> would be a good time to address this issue especially when one considers
>>>>> the
>>>
>>>>> rising costs of everything! If I could listen dependably, I could Email
>>>>> or
>>>>> phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to
>>>>> vote
>>>
>>>>> on certain matters! One could participate in this way and the NFB would
>>>>> be
>>>>> available for all the world to hear if they wished! Our critics say we
>>>>> aren't an open and above board organization! Therefore, some might say
>>>>> this
>>>
>>>>> is why streaming isn't a priority!
>>>
>>>>> All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!
>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Jim:
>>>
>>>>>> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach? Were you
>>>>>> involved in the planning and execution?
>>>
>>>>>> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem to
>>>>>> be
>>>
>>>>>> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on. They are
>>>>>> trying
>>>
>>>>>> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule, URL's
>>>>>> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever saw
>>>>>> on
>>>
>>>>>> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100. So people
>>>>>> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like it
>>>>>> is that widely used to me.
>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>>>> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>> All!
>>>
>>>>>>> I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming audio
>>>>>>> especially when it comes to conventions. I fully realize that this is an
>>>>>>> expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
>>>>>>> expense could be justified. Until that happens,we will always have this
>>>>>>> roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions. I wish it weren't so
>>>>>>> but
>>>
>>>>>>> one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
>>>>>>> Monitor comes out.
>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't hear anything. When I try to open up the windows media stream,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>
>>>>>>>> get a page error. Same thing with all the other streams. I have a
>>>>>>>> direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no audio
>>>>>>>> either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what they're
>>>>>>>> doing!
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right if
>>>>>>>>> you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
>>>>>>>>>> starting time!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
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