[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Jessica jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jul 15 03:16:03 UTC 2011 

I agree that wifi was pretty sparse in that area. An interesting point though is this. Every convention I have been to the hotels weren't close to much. When I stayed at the Rosen center I was closer to a lot more stuff, so it strikes me odd why they couldn't have it thre instead.

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On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, bundy at pobox.com wrote:

> M5
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> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
> Date: 07/13/2011 1:47 pm
> 
> It was Starbucks coffee, not Starbucks storefront.  And yes, I 
> stumbled the whole grounds looking for something.  Nothing to be had 
> without cracking one patron’s MyFi that was using WEP encryption.  
> 
> When I have some employment, I’ve got to give one of those things 
> serious consideration.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 01:21:27PM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>> Joseph,
>> 
>> Did you actually check out that the Starbucks in the hotel did not have the AT&T WIFI?  It's certainly possible that their contract with AT&T is void in a hotel like the one in Orlando.  Still I'd of checked there before paying the $9.95 hotel rate.
>> 
>> Thanks, William
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:22 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>> 
>> Actually, from the hotel, the nearest thing to the main hotel was a
>> Publix grocery store, and it was about 3/4 of a mile away.  Closer to
>> the Rosen Centre was a Walgreens (no WiFi) and a Denny’s (no WiFi),
>> and across another street was a Red Lobster (would have had no WiFi),
>> and a McDonald’s (probably had WiFi, didn’t go there).
>> 
>> The Starbucks coffee was had in the hotel, and as I’ve said, no WiFi,
>> unless you paid $10 a day, and then it only worked in the hotel lobby
>> whose distance from the meeting rooms was again half a mile.
>> 
>> You have to understand, the hotel was MASSIVE.  It made Dallas look
>> small by comparison.
>> 
>> Joseph
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:57:56AM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>> I do not have much sympathy over the 9.95 per day hotel internet.  These places use the extras to generate a huge part of their revenue.  Many have stated there were many businesses near the main hotel.  Why not locate a Starbucks or McDonalds or one of the growing number of businesses that provide free or low-cost WIFI for its customers?  I would not expect people to go off during sessions.  However sessions generally start at 9:00 A.M. always end around 5:00 P.M.  Which leaves sometime to care for checking the bank balance or reading email.
>>> 
>>> It's a different issue for people who are working.  I've been pulled out of a session once or twice and asked to accomplish a task during a presentation I wanted to hear.  An internet connection would have been nice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, William
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:22 AM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> $10 per day, with a half-mile hike from the meeting rooms to the
>>> nearest place it could be used.  Wifi in hotel lobby, ethernet in
>>> your room.  If you just needed to arrange a meeting, you had to walk
>>> all that way and hope that the person at the other end had a way of
>>> receiving the message.  Not everyone did.
>>> 
>>> You couldn’t call if one or both parties were on certain cellphone
>>> carriers, because one or both of you were unlikely to have service.
>>> 
>>> And more than one person at convention was discussing the need to
>>> connect to the Internet to monitor their bank account or similar (I
>>> can’t recommend being dependent on that, however.)
>>> 
>>> I personally had a package delivered while I was away that I wasn’t
>>> sure actually got delivered until I got home.  I’m glad my neighbor
>>> was able to sign for it, because my apartment manager was out last
>>> week while I was in Orlando.
>>> 
>>> There would have been a lot more coverage of convention on sites like
>>> Twitter and Facebook, including drawing attention to the sub-minimum
>>> wage stuff if people could have accessed those services.  In 2009
>>> there was an attempt to organize a Tweet-up which half the twitter
>>> users at convention didn’t know about because they didn’t have
>>> access to Twitter.  If there was one in 2011, I never heard about it.
>>> 
>>> Those of us working during session outside of the session hall would
>>> have loved to have access to the stream.  We tried, of course, but it
>>> didn’t work either because of poor cellular reception, the issues
>>> with the stream, or both.
>>> 
>>> The big sponsor for the convention this year was eBay.  It would’ve
>>> been a lot easier in the eBay sessions (aside from the first one) if
>>> people could’ve actually gotten on eBay to see and try the things
>>> suggested.
>>> 
>>> The Internet is part of how people do business in the modern world.
>>> It’s an even bigger part of how the average younger blind person does
>>> business.  Not having it available for eight days hobbled those of us
>>> who could have done a lot more if we’d had it.
>>> 
>>> Joseph
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:44:04PM -0400, d m gina wrote:
>>>> yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>> What was the cost to use their system?
>>>> Five dollars?
>>>> Would that be a day?
>>>> Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>> Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>> I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say so
>>>> myself, I plum don't do that bad.
>>>> My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>> I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do something else.
>>>> Keeps me thinking.
>>>> 
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes to
>>>>> conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the Internet. <<putting on
>>>>> fire-resistant suit>>
>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>>> More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere in
>>>>> the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one request of the
>>>>> national office when we return, it would be to obtain internet access
>>>>> for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>> locations for basic access.
>>>> 
>>>>> Joseph
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>> Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice, very clean, nice
>>>>>> rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we walked a lot
>>>>>> in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The food in the hotel was very very
>>>>>> expensive, way way more than any of the restaurants in Dallas. It did help
>>>>>> greatly to have the Publics across the street. If and when I go back, I
>>>>> must
>>>>>> remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes it totally
>>>>>> sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And yet again I am
>>>>>> too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I have Verizon and had
>>>>>> converage every where in the hotel and rooms. So I think that really
>>>>> depends
>>>>>> on your carrier.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer was
>>>>>> really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can
>>>>>> work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat.  I
>>>>>> certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>> incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be comfortable.
>>>>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is
>>>>>> full of cellular dead zones.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013 through 2017
>>>>>>> will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the length of the
>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>> back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.
>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to go
>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep people here
>>>>>>> for five years in a row, we need to give them ample opportunity to take
>>>>>>> advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. Besides, I like the banquet
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> night before the last day of convention.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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