[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Jessica jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jul 15 17:19:21 UTC 2011 

Definitely a better choice going with the Rosen center. Sure the hotel isn't massively big, but it definitely has a much better layout.

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On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:56 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> 
> Dear All,
> 
> The next convention in Orlando will be at the Rosen Center Hotel and it will be closer to I-Drive and there is lots of businesses around it there which is with in walking distance.
> We, here in the Florida Affiliate, are listening and we will try to be your eyes and ears leading up to the next convention.
> As for WIFI and Internet connections, we will let the Rosen Hotel know and as we have 2 years to work on it, who knows what will happen?
> Remember, this is a service that most other people must pay for.  Why should we get it free if they don't?
> It would be nice, but don't count on it.
> I had no trouble with cell phone connections anywhere in the hotel and I use Verizon.
> Consider this.  Most buildings in Florida are of CBS and reinforced steel construction, they are dense and this can block cell phone signals to a degree depending upon where you are at.  I have that problem even in my own house and can just move 5 feet, either way and I get a signal again.  WIFI must stand for, "When I Feel Inclined."
> 
> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica" <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <bundy at pobox.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
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> 
>> I agree that wifi was pretty sparse in that area. An interesting point though is this. Every convention I have been to the hotels weren't close to much. When I stayed at the Rosen center I was closer to a lot more stuff, so it strikes me odd why they couldn't have it thre instead.
>> 
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>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, bundy at pobox.com wrote:
>> 
>>> M5
>>> 
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>> Date: 07/13/2011 1:47 pm
>>> 
>>> It was Starbucks coffee, not Starbucks storefront.  And yes, I
>>> stumbled the whole grounds looking for something.  Nothing to be had
>>> without cracking one patron’s MyFi that was using WEP encryption.
>>> 
>>> When I have some employment, I’ve got to give one of those things
>>> serious consideration.
>>> 
>>> Joseph
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 01:21:27PM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>> Joseph,
>>>> 
>>>> Did you actually check out that the Starbucks in the hotel did not have the AT&T WIFI?  It's certainly possible that their contract with AT&T is void in a hotel like the one in Orlando.  Still I'd of checked there before paying the $9.95 hotel rate.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, William
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:22 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, from the hotel, the nearest thing to the main hotel was a
>>>> Publix grocery store, and it was about 3/4 of a mile away.  Closer to
>>>> the Rosen Centre was a Walgreens (no WiFi) and a Denny’s (no WiFi),
>>>> and across another street was a Red Lobster (would have had no WiFi),
>>>> and a McDonald’s (probably had WiFi, didn’t go there).
>>>> 
>>>> The Starbucks coffee was had in the hotel, and as I’ve said, no WiFi,
>>>> unless you paid $10 a day, and then it only worked in the hotel lobby
>>>> whose distance from the meeting rooms was again half a mile.
>>>> 
>>>> You have to understand, the hotel was MASSIVE.  It made Dallas look
>>>> small by comparison.
>>>> 
>>>> Joseph
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:57:56AM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>> I do not have much sympathy over the 9.95 per day hotel internet. These places use the extras to generate a huge part of their revenue. Many have stated there were many businesses near the main hotel.  Why not locate a Starbucks or McDonalds or one of the growing number of businesses that provide free or low-cost WIFI for its customers?  I would not expect people to go off during sessions.  However sessions generally start at 9:00 A.M. always end around 5:00 P.M.  Which leaves sometime to care for checking the bank balance or reading email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's a different issue for people who are working.  I've been pulled out of a session once or twice and asked to accomplish a task during a presentation I wanted to hear.  An internet connection would have been nice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:22 AM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>> 
>>>>> $10 per day, with a half-mile hike from the meeting rooms to the
>>>>> nearest place it could be used.  Wifi in hotel lobby, ethernet in
>>>>> your room.  If you just needed to arrange a meeting, you had to walk
>>>>> all that way and hope that the person at the other end had a way of
>>>>> receiving the message.  Not everyone did.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You couldn’t call if one or both parties were on certain cellphone
>>>>> carriers, because one or both of you were unlikely to have service.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And more than one person at convention was discussing the need to
>>>>> connect to the Internet to monitor their bank account or similar (I
>>>>> can’t recommend being dependent on that, however.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I personally had a package delivered while I was away that I wasn’t
>>>>> sure actually got delivered until I got home.  I’m glad my neighbor
>>>>> was able to sign for it, because my apartment manager was out last
>>>>> week while I was in Orlando.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There would have been a lot more coverage of convention on sites like
>>>>> Twitter and Facebook, including drawing attention to the sub-minimum
>>>>> wage stuff if people could have accessed those services.  In 2009
>>>>> there was an attempt to organize a Tweet-up which half the twitter
>>>>> users at convention didn’t know about because they didn’t have
>>>>> access to Twitter.  If there was one in 2011, I never heard about it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Those of us working during session outside of the session hall would
>>>>> have loved to have access to the stream.  We tried, of course, but it
>>>>> didn’t work either because of poor cellular reception, the issues
>>>>> with the stream, or both.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The big sponsor for the convention this year was eBay.  It would’ve
>>>>> been a lot easier in the eBay sessions (aside from the first one) if
>>>>> people could’ve actually gotten on eBay to see and try the things
>>>>> suggested.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Internet is part of how people do business in the modern world.
>>>>> It’s an even bigger part of how the average younger blind person does
>>>>> business.  Not having it available for eight days hobbled those of us
>>>>> who could have done a lot more if we’d had it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:44:04PM -0400, d m gina wrote:
>>>>>> yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>>>> What was the cost to use their system?
>>>>>> Five dollars?
>>>>>> Would that be a day?
>>>>>> Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>>>> Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>>>> I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say so
>>>>>> myself, I plum don't do that bad.
>>>>>> My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>>>> I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do something else.
>>>>>> Keeps me thinking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes to
>>>>>>> conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the Internet. <<putting on
>>>>>>> fire-resistant suit>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere in
>>>>>>> the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one request of the
>>>>>>> national office when we return, it would be to obtain internet access
>>>>>>> for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>>>> locations for basic access.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice, very clean, nice
>>>>>>>> rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we walked a lot
>>>>>>>> in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The food in the hotel was very very
>>>>>>>> expensive, way way more than any of the restaurants in Dallas. It did help
>>>>>>>> greatly to have the Publics across the street. If and when I go back, I
>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>> remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes it totally
>>>>>>>> sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And yet again I am
>>>>>>>> too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I have Verizon and had
>>>>>>>> converage every where in the hotel and rooms. So I think that really
>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>> on your carrier.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer was
>>>>>>>> really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can
>>>>>>>> work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat. I
>>>>>>>> certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>>>> incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be comfortable.
>>>>>>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is
>>>>>>>> full of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013 through 2017
>>>>>>>>> will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the length of the
>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>>> back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.
>>>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to go
>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep people here
>>>>>>>>> for five years in a row, we need to give them ample opportunity to take
>>>>>>>>> advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. Besides, I like the banquet
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> night before the last day of convention.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John
>>>>>>>>> Lennon
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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