[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Jessica Silva jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jul 15 18:46:52 UTC 2011


You don't need to walk to the middle of nowhere to get your exercise. Lol.

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On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> I thought the Shingle Creek had a great layout. Besides, we're all supposed to get more exercise, aren't we?
> 
> Mike
> 
> On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:19, Jessica <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> Definitely a better choice going with the Rosen center. Sure the hotel isn't massively big, but it definitely has a much better layout.
>> 
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>> On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:56 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> The next convention in Orlando will be at the Rosen Center Hotel and it will be closer to I-Drive and there is lots of businesses around it there which is with in walking distance.
>>> We, here in the Florida Affiliate, are listening and we will try to be your eyes and ears leading up to the next convention.
>>> As for WIFI and Internet connections, we will let the Rosen Hotel know and as we have 2 years to work on it, who knows what will happen?
>>> Remember, this is a service that most other people must pay for.  Why should we get it free if they don't?
>>> It would be nice, but don't count on it.
>>> I had no trouble with cell phone connections anywhere in the hotel and I use Verizon.
>>> Consider this.  Most buildings in Florida are of CBS and reinforced steel construction, they are dense and this can block cell phone signals to a degree depending upon where you are at.  I have that problem even in my own house and can just move 5 feet, either way and I get a signal again.  WIFI must stand for, "When I Feel Inclined."
>>> 
>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica" <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: <bundy at pobox.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I agree that wifi was pretty sparse in that area. An interesting point though is this. Every convention I have been to the hotels weren't close to much. When I stayed at the Rosen center I was closer to a lot more stuff, so it strikes me odd why they couldn't have it thre instead.
>>>> 
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>>>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, bundy at pobox.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> M5
>>>>> 
>>>>> -original message-
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: 07/13/2011 1:47 pm
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was Starbucks coffee, not Starbucks storefront.  And yes, I
>>>>> stumbled the whole grounds looking for something.  Nothing to be had
>>>>> without cracking one patron’s MyFi that was using WEP encryption.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I have some employment, I’ve got to give one of those things
>>>>> serious consideration.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 01:21:27PM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did you actually check out that the Starbucks in the hotel did not have the AT&T WIFI?  It's certainly possible that their contract with AT&T is void in a hotel like the one in Orlando.  Still I'd of checked there before paying the $9.95 hotel rate.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:22 PM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Actually, from the hotel, the nearest thing to the main hotel was a
>>>>>> Publix grocery store, and it was about 3/4 of a mile away.  Closer to
>>>>>> the Rosen Centre was a Walgreens (no WiFi) and a Denny’s (no WiFi),
>>>>>> and across another street was a Red Lobster (would have had no WiFi),
>>>>>> and a McDonald’s (probably had WiFi, didn’t go there).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Starbucks coffee was had in the hotel, and as I’ve said, no WiFi,
>>>>>> unless you paid $10 a day, and then it only worked in the hotel lobby
>>>>>> whose distance from the meeting rooms was again half a mile.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You have to understand, the hotel was MASSIVE.  It made Dallas look
>>>>>> small by comparison.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:57:56AM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>>> I do not have much sympathy over the 9.95 per day hotel internet. These places use the extras to generate a huge part of their revenue. Many have stated there were many businesses near the main hotel.  Why not locate a Starbucks or McDonalds or one of the growing number of businesses that provide free or low-cost WIFI for its customers?  I would not expect people to go off during sessions.  However sessions generally start at 9:00 A.M. always end around 5:00 P.M.  Which leaves sometime to care for checking the bank balance or reading email.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's a different issue for people who are working.  I've been pulled out of a session once or twice and asked to accomplish a task during a presentation I wanted to hear.  An internet connection would have been nice.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:22 AM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> $10 per day, with a half-mile hike from the meeting rooms to the
>>>>>>> nearest place it could be used.  Wifi in hotel lobby, ethernet in
>>>>>>> your room.  If you just needed to arrange a meeting, you had to walk
>>>>>>> all that way and hope that the person at the other end had a way of
>>>>>>> receiving the message.  Not everyone did.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You couldn’t call if one or both parties were on certain cellphone
>>>>>>> carriers, because one or both of you were unlikely to have service.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And more than one person at convention was discussing the need to
>>>>>>> connect to the Internet to monitor their bank account or similar (I
>>>>>>> can’t recommend being dependent on that, however.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I personally had a package delivered while I was away that I wasn’t
>>>>>>> sure actually got delivered until I got home.  I’m glad my neighbor
>>>>>>> was able to sign for it, because my apartment manager was out last
>>>>>>> week while I was in Orlando.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There would have been a lot more coverage of convention on sites like
>>>>>>> Twitter and Facebook, including drawing attention to the sub-minimum
>>>>>>> wage stuff if people could have accessed those services.  In 2009
>>>>>>> there was an attempt to organize a Tweet-up which half the twitter
>>>>>>> users at convention didn’t know about because they didn’t have
>>>>>>> access to Twitter.  If there was one in 2011, I never heard about it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Those of us working during session outside of the session hall would
>>>>>>> have loved to have access to the stream.  We tried, of course, but it
>>>>>>> didn’t work either because of poor cellular reception, the issues
>>>>>>> with the stream, or both.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The big sponsor for the convention this year was eBay.  It would’ve
>>>>>>> been a lot easier in the eBay sessions (aside from the first one) if
>>>>>>> people could’ve actually gotten on eBay to see and try the things
>>>>>>> suggested.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Internet is part of how people do business in the modern world.
>>>>>>> It’s an even bigger part of how the average younger blind person does
>>>>>>> business.  Not having it available for eight days hobbled those of us
>>>>>>> who could have done a lot more if we’d had it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:44:04PM -0400, d m gina wrote:
>>>>>>>> yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>>>>>> What was the cost to use their system?
>>>>>>>> Five dollars?
>>>>>>>> Would that be a day?
>>>>>>>> Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>>>>>> Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>>>>>> I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say so
>>>>>>>> myself, I plum don't do that bad.
>>>>>>>> My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>>>>>> I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do something else.
>>>>>>>> Keeps me thinking.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>> Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes to
>>>>>>>>> conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the Internet. <<putting on
>>>>>>>>> fire-resistant suit>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere in
>>>>>>>>> the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one request of the
>>>>>>>>> national office when we return, it would be to obtain internet access
>>>>>>>>> for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>>>>>> locations for basic access.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice, very clean, nice
>>>>>>>>>> rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we walked a lot
>>>>>>>>>> in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The food in the hotel was very very
>>>>>>>>>> expensive, way way more than any of the restaurants in Dallas. It did help
>>>>>>>>>> greatly to have the Publics across the street. If and when I go back, I
>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>> remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes it totally
>>>>>>>>>> sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And yet again I am
>>>>>>>>>> too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I have Verizon and had
>>>>>>>>>> converage every where in the hotel and rooms. So I think that really
>>>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>>>> on your carrier.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer was
>>>>>>>>>> really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can
>>>>>>>>>> work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat. I
>>>>>>>>>> certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>>>>>> incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be comfortable.
>>>>>>>>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is
>>>>>>>>>> full of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013 through 2017
>>>>>>>>>>> will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the length of the
>>>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>>>>> back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.
>>>>>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to go
>>>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep people here
>>>>>>>>>>> for five years in a row, we need to give them ample opportunity to take
>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. Besides, I like the banquet
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> night before the last day of convention.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John
>>>>>>>>>>> Lennon
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> NFBF NewslineR chair
>>>>>>>>>>> www.nfbnewsline.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter http://nfbfgoc.org Secretary
>>>>>>>>>> FDCP
>>>>>>>>>>> INC www.fdcp.org Chair Orange County Disability Advisory Committee
>>>>>>>> 
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