[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Jessica Silva jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jul 15 20:00:27 UTC 2011 

Wow, I actually liked the dome hotel in Detroit better lol.

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On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:41 PM, "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn't have much trouble with the layout of Shingle Creek. It was easier than those circular hotels. Lol! Walking was good for me and for my dog.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
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> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
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> 
>> I thought the Shingle Creek had a great layout. Besides, we're all supposed to get more exercise, aren't we?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:19, Jessica <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Definitely a better choice going with the Rosen center. Sure the hotel isn't massively big, but it definitely has a much better layout.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:56 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> The next convention in Orlando will be at the Rosen Center Hotel and it will be closer to I-Drive and there is lots of businesses around it there which is with in walking distance.
>>>> We, here in the Florida Affiliate, are listening and we will try to be your eyes and ears leading up to the next convention.
>>>> As for WIFI and Internet connections, we will let the Rosen Hotel know and as we have 2 years to work on it, who knows what will happen?
>>>> Remember, this is a service that most other people must pay for.  Why should we get it free if they don't?
>>>> It would be nice, but don't count on it.
>>>> I had no trouble with cell phone connections anywhere in the hotel and I use Verizon.
>>>> Consider this.  Most buildings in Florida are of CBS and reinforced steel construction, they are dense and this can block cell phone signals to a degree depending upon where you are at.  I have that problem even in my own house and can just move 5 feet, either way and I get a signal again.  WIFI must stand for, "When I Feel Inclined."
>>>> 
>>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica" <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: <bundy at pobox.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I agree that wifi was pretty sparse in that area. An interesting point though is this. Every convention I have been to the hotels weren't close to much. When I stayed at the Rosen center I was closer to a lot more stuff, so it strikes me odd why they couldn't have it thre instead.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, bundy at pobox.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> M5
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -original message-
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: 07/13/2011 1:47 pm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It was Starbucks coffee, not Starbucks storefront.  And yes, I
>>>>>> stumbled the whole grounds looking for something.  Nothing to be had
>>>>>> without cracking one patron’s MyFi that was using WEP encryption.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I have some employment, I’ve got to give one of those things
>>>>>> serious consideration.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 01:21:27PM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did you actually check out that the Starbucks in the hotel did not have the AT&T WIFI?  It's certainly possible that their contract with AT&T is void in a hotel like the one in Orlando.  Still I'd of checked there before paying the $9.95 hotel rate.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:22 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Actually, from the hotel, the nearest thing to the main hotel was a
>>>>>>> Publix grocery store, and it was about 3/4 of a mile away.  Closer to
>>>>>>> the Rosen Centre was a Walgreens (no WiFi) and a Denny’s (no WiFi),
>>>>>>> and across another street was a Red Lobster (would have had no WiFi),
>>>>>>> and a McDonald’s (probably had WiFi, didn’t go there).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Starbucks coffee was had in the hotel, and as I’ve said, no WiFi,
>>>>>>> unless you paid $10 a day, and then it only worked in the hotel lobby
>>>>>>> whose distance from the meeting rooms was again half a mile.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You have to understand, the hotel was MASSIVE.  It made Dallas look
>>>>>>> small by comparison.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:57:56AM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>>>> I do not have much sympathy over the 9.95 per day hotel internet. These places use the extras to generate a huge part of their revenue. Many have stated there were many businesses near the main hotel.  Why not locate a Starbucks or McDonalds or one of the growing number of businesses that provide free or low-cost WIFI for its customers?  I would not expect people to go off during sessions. However sessions generally start at 9:00 A.M. always end around 5:00 P.M.  Which leaves sometime to care for checking the bank balance or reading email.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's a different issue for people who are working.  I've been pulled out of a session once or twice and asked to accomplish a task during a presentation I wanted to hear.  An internet connection would have been nice.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:22 AM
>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> $10 per day, with a half-mile hike from the meeting rooms to the
>>>>>>>> nearest place it could be used.  Wifi in hotel lobby, ethernet in
>>>>>>>> your room.  If you just needed to arrange a meeting, you had to walk
>>>>>>>> all that way and hope that the person at the other end had a way of
>>>>>>>> receiving the message.  Not everyone did.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You couldn’t call if one or both parties were on certain cellphone
>>>>>>>> carriers, because one or both of you were unlikely to have service.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And more than one person at convention was discussing the need to
>>>>>>>> connect to the Internet to monitor their bank account or similar (I
>>>>>>>> can’t recommend being dependent on that, however.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I personally had a package delivered while I was away that I wasn’t
>>>>>>>> sure actually got delivered until I got home.  I’m glad my neighbor
>>>>>>>> was able to sign for it, because my apartment manager was out last
>>>>>>>> week while I was in Orlando.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There would have been a lot more coverage of convention on sites like
>>>>>>>> Twitter and Facebook, including drawing attention to the sub-minimum
>>>>>>>> wage stuff if people could have accessed those services.  In 2009
>>>>>>>> there was an attempt to organize a Tweet-up which half the twitter
>>>>>>>> users at convention didn’t know about because they didn’t have
>>>>>>>> access to Twitter.  If there was one in 2011, I never heard about it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Those of us working during session outside of the session hall would
>>>>>>>> have loved to have access to the stream.  We tried, of course, but it
>>>>>>>> didn’t work either because of poor cellular reception, the issues
>>>>>>>> with the stream, or both.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The big sponsor for the convention this year was eBay.  It would’ve
>>>>>>>> been a lot easier in the eBay sessions (aside from the first one) if
>>>>>>>> people could’ve actually gotten on eBay to see and try the things
>>>>>>>> suggested.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The Internet is part of how people do business in the modern world.
>>>>>>>> It’s an even bigger part of how the average younger blind person does
>>>>>>>> business.  Not having it available for eight days hobbled those of us
>>>>>>>> who could have done a lot more if we’d had it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:44:04PM -0400, d m gina wrote:
>>>>>>>>> yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>>>>>>> What was the cost to use their system?
>>>>>>>>> Five dollars?
>>>>>>>>> Would that be a day?
>>>>>>>>> Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>>>>>>> Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>>>>>>> I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say so
>>>>>>>>> myself, I plum don't do that bad.
>>>>>>>>> My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>>>>>>> I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do something else.
>>>>>>>>> Keeps me thinking.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes to
>>>>>>>>>> conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the Internet. <<putting on
>>>>>>>>>> fire-resistant suit>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere in
>>>>>>>>>> the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one request of the
>>>>>>>>>> national office when we return, it would be to obtain internet access
>>>>>>>>>> for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>>>>>>> locations for basic access.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice, very clean, nice
>>>>>>>>>>> rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we walked a lot
>>>>>>>>>>> in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The food in the hotel was very very
>>>>>>>>>>> expensive, way way more than any of the restaurants in Dallas. It did help
>>>>>>>>>>> greatly to have the Publics across the street. If and when I go back, I
>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>> remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes it totally
>>>>>>>>>>> sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And yet again I am
>>>>>>>>>>> too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I have Verizon and had
>>>>>>>>>>> converage every where in the hotel and rooms. So I think that really
>>>>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>>>>> on your carrier.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer was
>>>>>>>>>>> really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can
>>>>>>>>>>> work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat. I
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>>>>>>> incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be comfortable.
>>>>>>>>>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is
>>>>>>>>>>> full of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013 through 2017
>>>>>>>>>>>> will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the length of the
>>>>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>>>>>> back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to go
>>>>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep people here
>>>>>>>>>>>> for five years in a row, we need to give them ample opportunity to take
>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. Besides, I like the banquet
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> night before the last day of convention.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lennon
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>>>>>> 
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