[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
Larry D. Keeler
lkeeler at comcast.net
Thu Jul 28 13:49:11 UTC 2011
I didn't because I'm new to NFB!
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
> actually two years ago when the convention was in downtown Detroit I
> stayed at one of the overflow hotels a few blocks away and it was nice to
> be able to leave the main activity of the convention at times when i had
> enough.
> Chuck
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>
>>I think they should have the convention in one hotel, so if Colorado
>>cannot accommodate that crowd, then it probably won't be there. One hotel
>>makes it more practical to get to all activities.
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Constance Canode
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:05 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>> The convention was in Denver, but it has been many years. I think it
>> was 1989. It was a blast and we used a couple of hotels, if memory
>> serves me correctly.
>>
>> At 04:47 PM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>I would love to see the convention come west again, either to Colorado
>>>Denver or Colorado Springs.
>>>Closer to my home Montana.
>>>I understand why they wish not to come to Montana, but to Colorado
>>>because hotel rates are to high, I don't know about that one.
>>>
>>>Original message:
>>>>Brian,
>>>
>>>>I would agree. When I asked Marc why they did not change the date of
>>>>Convention giving reasons similar to yours, and also pointing out that
>>>>cheaper hotel rates could probably be gotten at other times. The answer
>>>>was
>>>>given that the July Conventions are what the membership want.
>>>
>>>>Now the one time I actually observed a vote on changing the date and
>>>>location of Convention than the ones we constantly go to took place, I
>>>>believed that the majority as a hole voted to change date and location
>>>>to
>>>>include other cities and get cheaper rates. It sounded quite clear to
>>>>me
>>>>the membership wanted more varied locations and times. However, Marc
>>>>said
>>>>that the motion to expand locations and times failed. The State by
>>>>State
>>>>vote was then called for. Naturally the result of the votes of the 50
>>>>State
>>>>Presidents was to leave the Convention date as it is currently.
>>>
>>>>Not really a majority decision. But a decision made using the rules of
>>>>the
>>>>body as agreed upon. I haven't been back to a Convention since. Nor do
>>>>I
>>>>plan to, as long as they are in the middle of summer; when I'd prefer to
>>>>be
>>>>on the beach. I guess you can call that, "William being a sore loser."
>>>>I
>>>>call it using my personal time as I see fit. Should they try having it
>>>>in
>>>>Orlando in January, I think I might try to attend the Convention. I'd
>>>>much
>>>>rather be in central Florida In January then now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks, William
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>On
>>>>Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:49 PM
>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>>you say the leaders want everyone to attend in person?
>>>
>>>>the leaders refuse to budge about adjusting the dates so they don't land
>>>>on
>>>>4th of july weekend.
>>>>i had much more fun camping with friends than i would ever had sitting
>>>>in a
>>>>chair listening to a person speaking all day and friends that want to be
>>>>with me instead of trying to find someone to eat/do things with after
>>>>the
>>>>sessions.
>>>
>>>>Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:18 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge
>>>>>progress.
>>>>>Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none
>>>>>of
>>>>>it
>>>>>would be streamed. The leadership wanted all to attend in person. Not
>>>>>via
>>>>>internet. The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are
>>>>>being
>>>>>streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what
>>>>>Marc
>>>>>stated to me long ago.
>>>
>>>>>I am hoping to catch a little of it. So I hope they get the kinks
>>>>>worked
>>>>>out soon.
>>>
>>>>>Thanks, William
>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>On
>>>>>Behalf Of James Aldrich
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>>>Hi Dave and list,
>>>
>>>>>To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things
>>>>>would
>>>>>be
>>>
>>>>>worse (grin smile)! I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio
>>>>>files.
>>>
>>>>>The problem is not those involved with the stream! One is doing the
>>>>>best
>>>>>they can with what they have available! I'm certain good people are
>>>>>involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing! The
>>>>>problem
>>>
>>>>>is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment
>>>>>may
>>>>>work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it! This
>>>>>nonsense
>>>>>of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
>>>>>perhaps. I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked!
>>>>>It
>>>>>is that plain and simple to me! The opposition not only streams their
>>>>>convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in
>>>>>its
>>>>>intirity throughout the year! Anyone who can stand to hear it can do
>>>>>so!
>>>>>I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we
>>>>>have!
>>>>>We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to
>>>>>something!
>>>>>It
>>>
>>>>>gets done! This is one of the things which needs to work much better
>>>>>than
>>>>>it has! What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
>>>>>Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother? I would like to be
>>>>>bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen
>>>>>later!
>>>>>This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
>>>>>listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
>>>>>Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
>>>>>which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something!
>>>>>Perhaps
>>>
>>>>>it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation,
>>>>>what a
>>>>>novel idea! I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various
>>>>>entaties
>>>>>to
>>>>>achieve a more successful dependable stream! If various states can
>>>>>stream
>>>>>their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly? I
>>>>>think
>>>>>if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the
>>>>>convention
>>>>>itself or whether at home or on the go! This definitely is one area
>>>>>where
>>>>>the NFB hasn't done its job as well as it could be done! How cool it
>>>>>would
>>>>>be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!
>>>
>>>>>I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things
>>>>>but I
>>>>>don't! The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is
>>>>>flawed
>>>>>because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the
>>>>>stream
>>>>>doesn't work, why bother?
>>>
>>>>>I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at
>>>>>convention
>>>>>would be a good time to address this issue especially when one
>>>>>considers
>>>>>the
>>>
>>>>>rising costs of everything! If I could listen dependably, I could
>>>>>Email
>>>>>or
>>>>>phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to
>>>>>vote
>>>
>>>>>on certain matters! One could participate in this way and the NFB
>>>>>would
>>>>>be
>>>>>available for all the world to hear if they wished! Our critics say we
>>>>>aren't an open and above board organization! Therefore, some might say
>>>>>this
>>>
>>>>>is why streaming isn't a priority!
>>>
>>>>>All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!
>>>
>>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Jim:
>>>
>>>>>>How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach? Were
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>involved in the planning and execution?
>>>
>>>>>>I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>be
>>>
>>>>>>pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on. They are
>>>>>>trying
>>>
>>>>>>to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule,
>>>>>>URL's
>>>>>>etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to
>>>>>>me.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever
>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>on
>>>
>>>>>>at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100. So
>>>>>>people
>>>>>>ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>is that widely used to me.
>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>>>>At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>Hello
>>>>>>>All!
>>>
>>>>>>>I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming
>>>>>>>audio
>>>>>>>especially when it comes to conventions. I fully realize that this
>>>>>>>is an
>>>>>>>expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
>>>>>>>expense could be justified. Until that happens,we will always have
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions. I wish it weren't
>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>but
>>>
>>>>>>>one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
>>>>>>>Monitor comes out.
>>>
>>>>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>I can't hear anything. When I try to open up the windows media
>>>>>>>>stream,
>>>>>>>>I
>>>
>>>>>>>>get a page error. Same thing with all the other streams. I have a
>>>>>>>>direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no
>>>>>>>>audio
>>>>>>>>either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what
>>>>>>>>they're
>>>>>>>>doing!
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>>>>>>>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>>>>>>>Skype name:
>>>>>>>>barefootedray
>>>
>>>>>>>>Facebook:
>>>>>>>>facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right
>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
>>>>>>>>><rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hey,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
>>>>>>>>>>Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
>>>>>>>>>>starting time!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Skype name:
>>>>>>>>>>barefootedray
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Facebook:
>>>>>>>>>>facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
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