[nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] {Disarmed} Federallaw preempts blindflyers' claims over airport kiosks

[Chris Nusbaum]

That's, in essence, what the legal arm of the NFB is.

 Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Wm.  Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net
To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 29 May 2011 14:38:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] {Disarmed} Federallaw	preempts	
blindflyers'	claims over airport kiosks

I agree with the principal of implied...  However we are in the 
minority.  That is why a large legal club is still needed.

Thanks, William


-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 2:34 PM
To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] {Disarmed} Federal law 
preempts blindflyers' claims over airport kiosks

Incidentally, mrs.  tenBroek always maintained that the 
Fourteenth Amendment implied the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the 
Voting rights Act of 1965 and would have said it implied ADA, 
too.  She always maintained, in turn, that the Civil rights Act 
of 1964 implied the ADA so the latter wasn't strictly necessary.  
Same went with Sections 501 through 504 of the Rehab Act as 
amended.

Interesting thoughts.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wm.  Ritchhart
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:24 AM
To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] {Disarmed} Federal law 
preempts blindflyers' claims over airport kiosks

Joseph,

I think you are correct in stating it has been weakened.  When 
the court has over ridden the 10th amendment, they usually site 
the 14th amendment as their Constitutional support for doing so.  
The 10th amendment was used frequently by the southern states to 
justify their laws that kept the few freedmen living in southern 
states in a state of near slavery before the civil war.  It was 
also used by some to justify anti-labor laws.  The real 
Constitutional power to fight discrimination exists in the 14th 
amendment.  Most successful court fights were fought using that 
amendment.

As for the Korean character set?  When I received the message 
back from the list it read o.k.  So I am pretty curious how it 
got translated into Korean.  Can you explain further?  I'd like 
to make sure I don't have an Outlook setting set that I am not 
aware of.

Thanks, William

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T.  Joseph 
Carter
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 1:29 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] {Disarmed} Federal law 
preempts blindflyers' claims over airport kiosks

For anybody else who could not read William's message because it
appears to contain Korean characters and random garbage (somehow 
it
got marked as Korean character set), I offer this translation
obtained by outright ignoring the character set:

 Chris,

 The 10th Amendment is generally ignored by Federal judges.  Once
 the Supreme Court established the rule of Federal Supremacy over
 the states, in most cases it became moot.  Most attorneys avoid
 litigating with the 10th amendment because it is such a weak
 amendment.

 Thanks, William

(I'd say it has been weakened, not that it is weak.  Actually, as 
I
read it, it's pretty iron-clad, but this isn't the place to argue
whys and wherefores on that particular topic.)

Joseph

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