[nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] {Disarmed} Federal law preempts blindflyers' claims over airport kiosks

Wm. Ritchhart william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net
Sat May 28 10:49:29 UTC 2011


Chris,

The 10th Amendment is generally ignored by Federal judges.  Once the
Supreme Court established the rule of Federal Supremacy over the states, in
most cases it became moot.  Most attorneys avoid litigating with the 10th
amendment because it is such a weak amendment. 

Thanks, William


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Michael and all,

But what about the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution about 
states' rights?

 Chris

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preempts blindflyers'	claims over airport kiosks

Well,

The fact is that the ACAA does regulate all aspects of air travel 
including
accessibility of airlines and their operations.  The rules are 
vague on
exactly how kiosks and accessibility are to work.  The main issue 
here is
that DOT is not willing to promulgate rules saying kiosks must be 
fully
accessible.

I disagree with the judge's ruling, but he may be correct in 
saying that the
ACAA trumps California legislation regarding this issue.


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flyers'
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Yeah, and awfully one-sided judge!

 Chris

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flyers' claimsover airport kiosks

Oftly one-sided article, huh?

On 5/23/11, Sherri <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
 I'm sure we'll think of some other way to solve this problem.

 Sherri


 Westlaw Journal Aviation
 Federal law preempts blind flyers' claims over airport kiosks
 5/23/2011 COMMENTS (0)


 May 23 (Westlaw Journals) - Federal law preempts a class action
brought by
 the National Federation of the Blind and several visually
impaired people
 over the accessibility of airport ticketing kiosks, a California
federal
 judge has ruled.

 U.S.  District Judge William Alsup of the Northern District of
California
 dismissed the NFB's lawsuit, finding the claims preempted by the
Air Carrier
 Access Act and the Airline Deregulation Act.

 The NFB and other plaintiffs alleged United Airlines violates
California
 disability law by failing to make airport ticketing kiosks
accessible to the
 blind.

 According to the complaint, the kiosks employ a visual computer
screen with
 prompts and touch-screen navigation but do not offer an audio
output or
 other medium to make the kiosks accessible to the blind.

 The plaintiffs brought their class action on behalf of all
legally blind
 people in the United States who have flown on United from a
California
 airport and have been unable to use the airline's kiosks.

 United moved for dismissal, arguing that the Airline
Deregulation Act and
 the Air Carrier Access Act preempt the plaintiffs' claims.

 Judge Alsup agreed.

 The claims are field-preempted under the ACAA because the
Department of
 Transportation pervasively regulates airport kiosk
accessibility, he said.

 In addition, the Airline Deregulation Act expressly preempts the
claims
 because they defendants provide an airline "service" as defined
in the
 statute.

 Finally, the judge rejected the plaintiffs' argument that the
Airline
 Deregulation Act was meant to target airline deregulation rather
than
 discrimination.

 "The Airline Deregulation Act unequivocally declares that no
state may enact
 a law related to airline service," the Judge Alsup said.
"Congress could
 have drawn the preemption provision more narrowly.  It did not."

 National Federation of the Blind et al.  v.  United Airlines
Inc., No.  C
 10-04816 WHA, 2011 WL 1544524 (N.D.  Cal.  Apr.  25, 2011).

 (Reporting by Jennifer Long, Westlaw Journal Aviation)




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