[nfb-talk] Rules???
Ray Foret Jr
rforetjr at att.net
Mon Dec 24 03:07:00 UTC 2012
Mike, I totally agree with your point here. Indeed, I couldn't have said it better myself. Now y'all, I really feel very strongly that this should end it.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
On Dec 23, 2012, at 8:52 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> The operative question is what "talking politics" really means. If we can't
> even agree upon the facts that bare upon an issue, how can bit be rationally
> discussed? For some reason, on these lists, such discussions degenerate into
> "I'm right and you're wrong" -- said by at least one party on each side of
> an issue -- which then degenerates into "You're a schmuck!" "Naw; it's *you*
> that's the schmuck!" and it goes downhill from there.
>
> For good or ill, we in NFB care very deeply about the issues of the day --
> or many of us do -- and are convinced that absolutely everything -- from the
> love life of Lindsay Lohan to home fire safey -- is blindness-related and
> it's our God-given right to determine the relevance to blindness of a given
> issue, no matter what David Andrews, the Moderator, says.
>
> Aside from human frailty, though, I'll give you a practical reason to hold
> down the political discussions to a dull roar: being the loyal NFB member
> that you are, I presume you wish NFB to succeed in its mission at minimal
> financial cost. However, if NFB condones explicit political statements on
> its list, it's quite possible that some will construe these statements as
> being NFB policy and, being political, cast doubt upon our entitlement to
> our nonprofit 501(c) status. Remember that IRS taxes organizations that
> lobby. That's why we are *very* careful to say that we educate -- we don't
> lobby.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D.
> Keeler
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:40 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Rules???
>
> Just an observation. Deffinetely not trying to cause trouble but, on a list
> where we can push our Federation buisness, we can't talk a little politics
> without offending others! Again, just an observation, nothing more!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:26 PM
> Subject: [nfb-talk] Rules???
>
>
>> There are not "formal" rules. I have resisted writing them, because
>> people regard them as a line in the sand, and then proceed to step
>> over them. We have general guidelines -- no personal attacks, and
>> posts should be blindness-oriented/related. That is about it. It has
>> mostly worked for over 20 years now.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 10:59 PM 12/22/2012, you wrote:
>>> Dear David Andrews,
>>>
>>> I'm sorry if I crossed someline, and I will of course discontinue
>>> posting any more politics related posts. Please email me any links
>>> for the exact rules for the Blind_Talk discussion group. I would
>>> appreciate it for future reference. Thankyou very much in advance.
>>>
>>> Sincerely, Robert Ortiz.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:37 PM
>>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 76
>>>
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>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> 1. Re: I'll tell you why we shouldn't talk to Republicans.RE:
>>> nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43 (David Andrews)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:35:27 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I'll tell you why we shouldn't talk to
>>> Republicans.RE: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000091317006 at mailfront3.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>
>>> You are correct -- I must ask that the political discussion cease and
>>> desist!
>>>
>>> David Andrews, Moderator
>>>
>>> At 07:32 PM 12/22/2012, you wrote:
>>>> Just wondering if this discussion is appropriate here. Our personal
>>>> political affiliations are one thing. But, promoting one party over
>>>> another on an NFB list seems out of place to me.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Larry D. Keeler
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 6:26 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I'll tell ou why we shouldn't talk to
>>>> Republicans.RE: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>>>>
>>>> Yah, irt seems like the3 republicans have been a lot more active
>>>> when it concerns cut backs to our populations. Not to be to hard
>>>> about it but I can't see why folks vote republican with our economy
>>>> the way it is! Look at Michigans Governor! Je3ez! Well, not to
>>>> start an argument but the republican regeme tends to make it hard
>>>> for those of us who are just trying to get by!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Ortiz"
>>>> <bobby7391 at optimum.net>
>>>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:53 PM
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I'll tell ou why we shouldn't talk to
>>>> Republicans.RE:
>>>> nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you remember when President G.W. Bush (Or Baby Blue, as I
>>>>> like to call
>>>>> him) traveled around America in early 2005 while advocating that
>>>>> Social Security should be Privatized, either partially or completely?
>>>>> The Republican party has been for years dreaming of stealing the
>>>>> two trillion dollars in the SS trust fund and handing it to Wall
>>>>> Street who will invest it in the riskiest craziest derivatives they
>>>>> can invent. Doesn't anyone remember the banking collapse of 2008?
>>>>>
>>>>> So what do you think will happen to Social Security in the long
>>>>> term if
>>> that
>>>>> happens? Or isn't it obvious? Also, whenever any republican
>>>>> politician
>>>>> has been asked over the last decade if the republicans would
>>>>> consider giving governmental garantees to the beneficiaries of
>>>>> privatized personalized Social Security accounts, they have ALL
>>>>> WITHOUT EXEMPTION said ABSOLUTELY NO. So what does that mean? Well it
> is very clear.
>>>>> They, the Republicans, want to use our Social Security FICA
>>>>> insurance which we paid for, invest it in toilet paper investments,
>>>>> milk those investments for all they can, and then throw us under
>>>>> the bus when those
>>> "investments" inevitably go bust.
>>>>> And if those aren't convincing enough reasons why we shouldn't
>>>>> talk to republicans on this issue, then I don't know what reasons would
> be.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I also wanted to clarify something. I didn't say that the
>>>>> failure to negotiate a deal on the fiscal cliff by January 1st
>>>>> would automatically effect anyone's social security check now. I
>>>>> think maybe my previous posting was a little misunderstood.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was trying to explain that for the last three days, President and
>>>>> House Minority leader Nancy Palosi have both said that they are
>>>>> willing to cut the COLA Cost of Living Adjustment on Social
>>>>> Security beneficiaries by 0.3 percent. I know this doesn't sound
>>>>> like much, but it is a terribly frightening prospect for several
> reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1( It would be the first time since the creation of Social Security
>>>>> that direct monthly benefits would have been cut AT ALL.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) this minimum sounding cut is also accumulative. In about 10
>>>>> years or less, every SSDI recipient will be receiving about an
>>>>> average of
>>>>> $1000.00 less annually. Can any of us afford that? I know I can't.
>>>>> So this is a real cut, and not some kind of Consumer Pricing Index
>>>>> readjustment as many are now claiming.
>>>>>
>>>>> And 3) This first historic cut to Social Security benefits will
>>>>> open the DOOR WIDE OPEN to restricting and maybe privatizing Social
>>>>> Security which would eventually doom the entire trust fund. And if
>>>>> you need proof of that, then study what has happened to retirement
>>>>> benefit programs in Latin American countries whenever those
>>>>> countries have privatized or been forced to privatize their
>>>>> retirement benefit programs. This craziness has all been tried
>>>>> before to desasterous
>>> effects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, no one's checks will disappear immediately, but the long
>>>>> term damage to Social Security may or probably will become
>>>>> UNREPAIRABLE! So that is why we should worry about how these
>>>>> fiscal cliff negotiations are going and exactly what the final
>>>>> shape of any deal looks like. It isn't just our long term future
>>>>> that's at stake, but what about when our kids retire or God forbid
>>>>> become disabled like us?
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, I myself am not trying to scare anyone. Besides, I think
>>>>> the above facts are scary enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely, Robert Ortiz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:59 PM
>>>>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>>>>>
>>>>> Send nfb-talk mailing list submissions to nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Re: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40 (Steven Johnson)
>>>>> 2. Re: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40 (Steven Johnson)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:55:11 -0600
>>>>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>>>>> Message-ID: <004401cddfce$3bb16170$b3142450$@charter.net>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris, don't you mean House Majority Leader, John Boehner,
>>>>> pronounced
>>> Baner?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> christopher nusbaum
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:45 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>
>>>>> This may be more of a political issue than anything, but I'm just
>>>>> wondering why you wouldn't recommend that we contact Republican
>>>>> leaders in Congress, especially House majority leader John Weiner?
>>>>> After all, they are involved in the negotiations just as much as
>>>>> the Democrats are, and they need to know how we feel as well. Now,
>>>>> if this is an inappropriate topics for list, or if it is a
>>>>> political issue for you and you don't want to talk to the Republicans,
> I understand that.
>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Robert Ortiz <bobby7391 at optimum.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw a message asking what the fiscal cliff has to do with the
>>>>>> NFB and I wanted to answer that question. A WHOLE DAMN LOT
>>>>>> ESPECIALLY TO ANYONE RECEIVING SSI OR SSDI! If an agreement isn't
>>>>>> reached by January 1st for this bologna "Fiscal Cliff" which I'm
>>>>>> praying for, then Social Security WILL NOT BE TOUCHED! But if
>>>>>> President Obama and Nancy Palosi continue to offer the damn
>>>>>> republicans a cut in the Annual Cost of Living Adjustment COLA for
>>>>>> all Social Security recipients, as they have done over the last
>>>>>> few days; then all of us blind SSDI recipients will experience our
>>>>>> first real cut in our Social
>>>>> Security benefits. And remember SSDI stands for Social Security
>>>>>> Disability Insurance. And we all paid our FICA taxes over our work
>>> lives
>>>>>> to receive our DISABILITY INSURANCE! That's right IT'S INSURANCE
>>>>>> WE PAID FOR, NOT A HANDOUT!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I seriously suggest to everyone who reads this to do as I have
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>> Call or email your home state's two senators, your house of
>>>>>> representatives congressman for your county, Senate Majority
>>>>>> leader Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Palosi, and
>>>>>> President Obama to please not backstab America's blind and disabled!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:00 PM
>>>>>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send nfb-talk mailing list submissions to
>>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>>>> nfb-talk-owner at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
>>>>>> specific than
>>>>>> "Re: Contents of nfb-talk digest..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>> (Kenneth Chrane)
>>>>>> 2. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>> Sequestration (Humberto Avila)
>>>>>> 3. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>> Sequestration (Mike Freeman)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:11:50 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>, "NFB of Maryland
>>>>>> e-mail list" <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>> Message-ID: <CC61E7FF5F26432E9606B39208B1704E at Kens>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>>>>> deficit.
>>>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>>>>>> of solving tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to
>>>>>> avoid the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and
>>>>>> across-the-board cuts known as
>>>>> sequester.
>>>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>>>>>> Americans would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that
>>>>>> could bring our nation back into recession. The longer we delay
>>>>>> the more damage we do to ourselves and the economy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>>>>>> have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>>>>>> debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>>>>>> contract between the American people and their government.
>>>>>> Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted
>>>>>> or block-granted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>>>>>> the fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start
>>>>>> by letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making
>>>>>> more than
>>>>> $250,000 per year.
>>>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>>>>>> also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military
>>>>>> and domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit. That's why
>>>>>> I supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress in 2011 that
>>>>>> would require $900 billion in cuts over
>>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>>>>>> to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>>>>>> middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>>>>>> revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>>>>>> could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion
> to our state economy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>>>>>> the fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our
>>>>>> spending policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>>>>>> is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>>>> assistance to you in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>>>> United States Senator
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>>>>>> e-mail account is not monitored.
>>>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>>>> comments page of my website here.
>>>>>> If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>>>>>> E-Newsletter here.
>>>>>> Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:17:19 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>> Message-ID: <007901cddf29$b0678580$11369080$@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Kenneth Chrane
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>>>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>>>>> deficit.
>>>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>>>>>> of solving tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to
>>>>>> avoid the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and
>>>>>> across-the-board cuts known as
>>>>> sequester.
>>>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>>>>>> Americans would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that
>>>>>> could bring our nation back into recession. The longer we delay
>>>>>> the more damage we do to ourselves and the economy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>>>>>> have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>>>>>> debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>>>>>> contract between the American people and their government.
>>>>>> Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted
>>>>>> or block-granted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>>>>>> the fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start
>>>>>> by letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making
>>>>>> more than
>>>>> $250,000 per year.
>>>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>>>>>> also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military
>>>>>> and domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit. That's why
>>>>>> I supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress in 2011 that
>>>>>> would require $900 billion in cuts over
>>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>>>>>> to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>>>>>> middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>>>>>> revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>>>>>> could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion
> to our state economy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>>>>>> the fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our
>>>>>> spending policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>>>>>> is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>>>> assistance to you in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>>>> United States Senator
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>>>>>> e-mail account is not monitored.
>>>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>>>> comments page of my website here.
>>>>>> If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>>>>>> E-Newsletter here.
>>>>>> Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:26:49 -0800
>>>>>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>> Message-ID: <FA5FCD01-4B82-498E-9B35-DFB84CD831E3 at panix.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rehab funding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>>> sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2012, at 19:17, "Humberto Avila"
>>>>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Kenneth Chrane
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>>>>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the
>>>>>>> federal
>>>>>> deficit.
>>>>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>> solving
>>>>>>> tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to avoid the
>>>>>>> devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts
>>>>>>> known as
>>>>> sequester.
>>>>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring our
>>>>>>> nation back into recession. The longer we delay the more damage
>>>>>>> we do to
>>>>>> ourselves
>>>>>>> and the economy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>>>>>>> have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>>>>>>> debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>>>>>>> contract between the American people and their government.
>>>>>>> Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not
>>>>>>> gutted or
>>> block-granted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fiscal
>>>>>>> cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start by letting
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more than
>>>>>>> $250,000 per
>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>>>>>>> also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both
>>>>>>> military and domestic -
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> will begin to reduce our deficit. That's why I supported the
>>>>>>> Budget
>>>>>> Control
>>>>>>> Act passed by Congress in 2011 that would require $900 billion in
>>>>>>> cuts
>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>>>>>>> to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>>>>>>> middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>>>>>>> revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>>>>>>> could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1
>>>>>>> billion to our state economy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fiscal
>>>>>>> cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>>>>>>> policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>>>>>>> is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>>>>> assistance to you
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>>>>> United States Senator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>>>>>>> e-mail account is not monitored.
>>>>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>>>>> comments page of my website here.
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>>>>> ter.ne
>>>>> t
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:58:49 -0600
>>>>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>>>>> Message-ID: <004501cddfce$bd59d310$380d7930$@charter.net>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem in this country is not the revenue coming in, but the
>>> spending.
>>>>> Based on this, our Government needs to be responsible enough to
>>>>> look at cuts across the board and this includes SSA benefits. My
>>>>> hope that if a compromise canot be reached, all programs will be
>>>>> looked at equally as far as cuts. I have read that implementing a
>>>>> 1% cut across the board in all Federal programs could get us out of
>>>>> this mess, but no one will pull that proverbial trigger. Needless
>>>>> to say, chances are that the COLA for SSA benefits would be ended just
> for starters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> christopher nusbaum
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:36 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray,
>>>>>
>>>>> Although this is merely speculation at this point, I agree with you.
>>>>> If an agreement is not reached by January 1, and even if an
>>>>> agreement is reached on this fiscal cliff issue, some government
>>>>> programs will most likely be either cut or eliminated. However, it
>>>>> seems that most politicians think Social Security is an important
>>>>> program, and most of the people I've heard say they don't want to
>>>>> touch that program. So, I think those of you on SSI or SSDI will
>>>>> not be affected. Still, it might be good to keep an eye on this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that those of us on SSI and social security will receive
>>>>>> our
>>>>> checks. Pay no attention to scare tactis which may try to make you
>>>>> think otherwise. Now, perhaps however, this may have a negative
>>>>> effect on long term funding of educational programs; which, of
>>>>> course,
>>> would not be good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Robert Ortiz <bobby7391 at optimum.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw a message asking what the fiscal cliff has to do with the
>>>>>>> NFB and I wanted to answer that question. A WHOLE DAMN LOT
>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY TO ANYONE RECEIVING SSI OR SSDI! If an agreement
>>>>>>> isn't reached by January 1st for this bologna "Fiscal Cliff"
>>>>>>> which I'm praying for, then Social Security WILL NOT BE TOUCHED!
>>>>>>> But if President Obama and Nancy Palosi continue to offer the
>>>>>>> damn republicans a cut in the Annual Cost of Living Adjustment
>>>>>>> COLA for all Social Security recipients, as they have done over
>>>>>>> the last few days; then all of us blind SSDI recipients will
>>>>>>> experience our first real cut in our Social
>>>>> Security benefits. And remember SSDI stands for Social Security
>>>>>>> Disability Insurance. And we all paid our FICA taxes over our work
>>>>> lives
>>>>>>> to receive our DISABILITY INSURANCE! That's right IT'S INSURANCE
>>>>>>> WE PAID FOR, NOT A HANDOUT!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I seriously suggest to everyone who reads this to do as I have
>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>> Call or email your home state's two senators, your house of
>>>>>>> representatives congressman for your county, Senate Majority
>>>>>>> leader Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Palosi, and
>>>>>>> President Obama to please not backstab America's blind and disabled!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:00 PM
>>>>>>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>>> (Kenneth Chrane)
>>>>>>> 2. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>>> Sequestration (Humberto Avila)
>>>>>>> 3. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>>> Sequestration (Mike Freeman)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:11:50 -0500
>>>>>>> From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>, "NFB of
>>>>>>> Maryland
>>>>>>> e-mail list" <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <CC61E7FF5F26432E9606B39208B1704E at Kens>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the
>>>>>>> federal
>>>>> deficit.
>>>>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>>>>>>> of solving tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to
>>>>>>> avoid the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and
>>>>>>> across-the-board cuts
>>>>> known as sequester.
>>>>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>>>>>>> Americans would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that
>>>>>>> could bring our nation back into recession. The longer we delay
>>>>>>> the more damage we do to ourselves and the economy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>>>>>>> have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>>>>>>> debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>>>>>>> contract between the American people and their government.
>>>>>>> Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not
>>>>>>> gutted or
>>> block-granted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>>>>>>> the fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start
>>>>>>> by letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households
>>>>>>> making more than
>>>>> $250,000 per year.
>>>>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>>>>>>> also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both
>>>>>>> military and domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit.
>>>>>>> That's why I supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress
>>>>>>> in 2011 that would require $900 billion in cuts over
>>>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>>>>>>> to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>>>>>>> middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>>>>>>> revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>>>>>>> could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1
>>>>>>> billion to our state economy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>>>>>>> the fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our
>>>>>>> spending policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>>>>>>> is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>>>>> assistance to you in the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>>>>> United States Senator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>>>>>>> e-mail account is not monitored.
>>>>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>>>>> comments page of my website here.
>>>>>>> If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>>>>>>> E-Newsletter here.
>>>>>>> Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:17:19 -0800
>>>>>>> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <007901cddf29$b0678580$11369080$@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Kenneth Chrane
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>>>>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the
>>>>>>> federal
>>>>> deficit.
>>>>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>>>>>>> of solving tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to
>>>>>>> avoid the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and
>>>>>>> across-the-board cuts
>>>>> known as sequester.
>>>>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>>>>>>> Americans would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that
>>>>>>> could bring our nation back into recession. The longer we delay
>>>>>>> the more damage we do to ourselves and the economy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>>>>>>> have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>>>>>>> debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>>>>>>> contract between the American people and their government.
>>>>>>> Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not
>>>>>>> gutted or
>>> block-granted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>>>>>>> the fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start
>>>>>>> by letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households
>>>>>>> making more than
>>>>> $250,000 per year.
>>>>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>>>>>>> also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both
>>>>>>> military and domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit.
>>>>>>> That's why I supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress
>>>>>>> in 2011 that would require $900 billion in cuts over
>>>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>>>>>>> to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>>>>>>> middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>>>>>>> revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>>>>>>> could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1
>>>>>>> billion to our state economy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>>>>>>> the fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our
>>>>>>> spending policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>>>>>>> is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>>>>>>> assistance to you in the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>>>>> United States Senator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>>>>>>> e-mail account is not monitored.
>>>>>>> If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>>>>>>> comments page of my website here.
>>>>>>> If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>>>>>>> E-Newsletter here.
>>>>>>> Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nfb-talk:
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>>>>>>> hum
>>>>>>> b
>>>>>>> erto2%4
>>>>>>> 0gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:26:49 -0800
>>>>>>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <FA5FCD01-4B82-498E-9B35-DFB84CD831E3 at panix.com>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rehab funding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>>>> sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2012, at 19:17, "Humberto Avila"
>>>>>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Kenneth Chrane
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>>>>>>>> Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>>>>>>>> Sequestration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>>>>>>>> To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Chrane:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the
>>>>>>>> federal
>>>>>>> deficit.
>>>>>>>> It's good to hear from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Americans need to have a government on their side that is
>>>>>>>> capable of
>>>>>>> solving
>>>>>>>> tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to avoid the
>>>>>>>> devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts
>>>>>>>> known
>>>>> as sequester.
>>>>>>>> Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>>>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring
>>>>>>>> our nation back into recession. The longer we delay the more
>>>>>>>> damage we do to
>>>>>>> ourselves
>>>>>>>> and the economy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>>>>>>>> have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce
>>>>>>>> our debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the
>>>>>>>> social contract between the American people and their government.
>>>>>>>> Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not
>>>>>>>> gutted or
>>>>> block-granted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to
>>>>>>>> avoid the
>>>>>>> fiscal
>>>>>>>> cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start by letting
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more than
>>>>>>>> $250,000 per
>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>> This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>>>>>>>> also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both
>>>>>>>> military and domestic -
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> will begin to reduce our deficit. That's why I supported the
>>>>>>>> Budget
>>>>>>> Control
>>>>>>>> Act passed by Congress in 2011 that would require $900 billion
>>>>>>>> in cuts
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>>>>>>>> to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>>>>>>>> middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>>>>>>>> revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>>>>>>>> could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1
>>>>>>>> billion to our state
>>> economy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to
>>>>>>>> prevent the
>>>>>>> fiscal
>>>>>>>> cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>>>>>>>> policy to reduce our national debt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your
>>>>>>>> views is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be
>>>>>>>> of any assistance to you
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> Barbara A. Mikulski
>>>>>>>> United States Senator
>>
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