[nfb-talk] About 501C status.RE: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 114
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Mon Dec 24 06:19:32 UTC 2012
Mr. Ortiz:
(1) Reread my name -- it's Freeman -- F R E E M A N.
(2) Whom do you think pays for the NFB listservs? You, I and everyone else
who contributes to NFB does so. When compared to trying to get kids (adopted
or natural-born) back from social workers to their blind parents, or, when
compared to trying to get minimum wages for all disabled workers, do you
think most NFB members would deem it appropriate to pay for political
debates which can just as easily be held in other venues? If so, I urge you
to contact President Maurer at <OfficeOfThePresident at nfb.org> and try to
convince *him.*
Incidentally, where do you live? Who's your affiliate President? I urge you
to have a heart-to-heart with him or her about this.
Cheers!
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Ortiz
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:56 PM
To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nfb-talk] About 501C status.RE: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 114
Dear Mr. Friedman,
When I worked in an ILC here in NYC, our ILC had both 501C and 503C status.
And in my orientation and peer group meetings where I was both the presenter
and the moderator, I and anyone in our organization or groups was permited
to speak about anything political as long as we were referring to anything
that was prior to the given literal calendar date of the day we were holding
our meeting. Of course, no one was permitted to endorse any political party
outright, either staff members or our visiting clients. But in our meetings
in public on our ILC property, we still had incredibly stimulating political
discussions. We also discussed political policies and their impact on the
disabled even when we attributed those policies to one party or another.
And as far as my former Executive Director was concerned, all of that was
perfectly legal and jeopardized nothing.
Anyway, I didn't think those kind of guidelines would have applied to NFB
members expressing their personal opinions in a chat room. Of course, It
would be inappropriate for NFB staff and officials to do that, but applying
that guideline to NFB members is being a little overly cautious in the legal
sence.
Of course, I also completely understand that if the discussions group's
policy, whether official or unofficial, is to avoid political debates and
focus on issues kmore directly related to blindness, then all NFB members
who use the chat room should comply.
Not that I want to start a new argument. Sincerely, I don't. I just wanted
to make that observation for everyone.
Respectfully, Robert Ortiz.
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1. Re: Merry Christmas! (d m gina)
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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:50:28 -0500
From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Merry Christmas!
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Are they the butter cookies,
those are not one of my favorites, if they are enjoy.
If there is something hard to chew, I give it to my husband, he is the
Mikey in the family loll he will eat anything.
Or is it everything hmmm I will have to think about that one.
Then the scale growns once a week when we step on it giggle.
Original message:
> Mark,
> Good point! :-) Believe me, we've got the junkfood too! A big tin of
> cookies on the counter just waiting to be opened and torn into? Oh
> yeah! Nothing gets rid of your willpower And makes you forget about
> that four letter word that starts with a D faster than some good old
> junk food! Grin!
> Chris Nusbaum
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 23, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> Let's not mention the dreaded d word, I bought junk food yesterday and
>> my parents just came over with a tin of homemade cookies, and the
>> lobster on Tuesday, I have all of the will power of a limp spaghetti
>> noodle. But after the holidays, I will get to it again, but not at the
>> moment. The d word also stands for deprivation, did you know that?
Grin.
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message----- From: Constance Canode
>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:31 AM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Merry Christmas!
>> Merry Christmas to everyone. I hope yoy all have a joyous and safe
>> holiday. Rick and I always stay hone and have a big Christas Eve buffet
>> with all kinds of dips, crackers, meats and cheeses and we have a nice
>> ham for Christmas Day. However, that Maine lobster would be delicious.
>> I love real seafood. I am from Philadelphia originally and had tons of
>> it, but it isnot a prevalent thing here in Wisconsin...sob, sob. Have
>> a big bite for me. We have a tradition at our house of opening our
>> gifts at midnight, the very beginning of Christmas morning and I can
>> hardly wait to tear into those packagees. Wish you could all be here
>> to help eat up the sweets that will soon be adorning my hips, lol. ZOh
>> well, you all know the first three letters in the word diet, but I
>> think maybe I will start that dieting thing after the junk food is
>> gone...smile. Merry Christmas to everyone, especially those who are
>> lucky enough to have family and friend who are not hundres or thousands
>> of miles away like mine.
>> Constance Canode
>> Sent from my I-phone
>> On Dec 23, 2012, at 9:13 AM, "Kenneth Chrane"
>> <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> I wish you a Very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.
>>> Ken Chrane
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Nusbaum"
<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
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>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:07 AM
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Merry Christmas!
>>>> Good morning everyone,
>>>> I'd like to join with everybody who has posted their Christmas wishes
>>>> so far in writing to wish everyone on these lists who celebrates the
>>>> holiday a very merry Christmas!!! I hope all of you, like me, will be
>>>> able to enjoy Christmas with your family and loved ones. If you are
>>>> travelling for Christmas, stay safe. And above all, have fun!!!
>>>> As for myself and my family, we're leaving in a couple of minutes for
>>>> BWI Airport to catch a plane out to Kansas City to spend Christmas with
>>>> family there! Very much looking forward to seeing them!!!
>>>> Again, a very Merry Christmas to you all!!! If you're celebrating
>>>> another holiday, I wish you the best!
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:52:33 -0800
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Rules???
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The operative question is what "talking politics" really means. If we can't
even agree upon the facts that bare upon an issue, how can bit be rationally
discussed? For some reason, on these lists, such discussions degenerate into
"I'm right and you're wrong" -- said by at least one party on each side of
an issue -- which then degenerates into "You're a schmuck!" "Naw; it's *you*
that's the schmuck!" and it goes downhill from there.
For good or ill, we in NFB care very deeply about the issues of the day --
or many of us do -- and are convinced that absolutely everything -- from the
love life of Lindsay Lohan to home fire safey -- is blindness-related and
it's our God-given right to determine the relevance to blindness of a given
issue, no matter what David Andrews, the Moderator, says.
Aside from human frailty, though, I'll give you a practical reason to hold
down the political discussions to a dull roar: being the loyal NFB member
that you are, I presume you wish NFB to succeed in its mission at minimal
financial cost. However, if NFB condones explicit political statements on
its list, it's quite possible that some will construe these statements as
being NFB policy and, being political, cast doubt upon our entitlement to
our nonprofit 501(c) status. Remember that IRS taxes organizations that
lobby. That's why we are *very* careful to say that we educate -- we don't
lobby.
Cheers!
Mike Freeman
-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D.
Keeler
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:40 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Rules???
Just an observation. Deffinetely not trying to cause trouble but, on a list
where we can push our Federation buisness, we can't talk a little politics
without offending others! Again, just an observation, nothing more!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: [nfb-talk] Rules???
> There are not "formal" rules. I have resisted writing them, because
> people regard them as a line in the sand, and then proceed to step
> over them. We have general guidelines -- no personal attacks, and
> posts should be blindness-oriented/related. That is about it. It has
> mostly worked for over 20 years now.
>
> Dave
>
> At 10:59 PM 12/22/2012, you wrote:
>>Dear David Andrews,
>>
>>I'm sorry if I crossed someline, and I will of course discontinue
>>posting any more politics related posts. Please email me any links
>>for the exact rules for the Blind_Talk discussion group. I would
>>appreciate it for future reference. Thankyou very much in advance.
>>
>>Sincerely, Robert Ortiz.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:37 PM
>>To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>Subject: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 76
>>
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>>Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Re: I'll tell you why we shouldn't talk to Republicans.RE:
>> nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43 (David Andrews)
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:35:27 -0600
>>From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I'll tell you why we shouldn't talk to
>> Republicans.RE: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>>Message-ID: <auto-000091317006 at mailfront3.g2host.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>>You are correct -- I must ask that the political discussion cease and
>>desist!
>>
>>David Andrews, Moderator
>>
>>At 07:32 PM 12/22/2012, you wrote:
>> >Just wondering if this discussion is appropriate here. Our personal
>> >political affiliations are one thing. But, promoting one party over
>> >another on an NFB list seems out of place to me.
>> >
>> >Cindy
>> >
>> >-----Original Message----- From: Larry D. Keeler
>> >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 6:26 PM
>> >To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> >Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I'll tell ou why we shouldn't talk to
>> >Republicans.RE: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>> >
>> >Yah, irt seems like the3 republicans have been a lot more active
>> >when it concerns cut backs to our populations. Not to be to hard
>> >about it but I can't see why folks vote republican with our economy
>> >the way it is! Look at Michigans Governor! Je3ez! Well, not to
>> >start an argument but the republican regeme tends to make it hard
>> >for those of us who are just trying to get by!
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Ortiz"
>> ><bobby7391 at optimum.net>
>> >To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:53 PM
>> >Subject: [nfb-talk] I'll tell ou why we shouldn't talk to
>> >Republicans.RE:
>> >nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>> >
>> >
>> >>Chris,
>> >>
>> >>Don't you remember when President G.W. Bush (Or Baby Blue, as I
>> >>like to call
>> >>him) traveled around America in early 2005 while advocating that
>> >>Social Security should be Privatized, either partially or completely?
>> >>The Republican party has been for years dreaming of stealing the
>> >>two trillion dollars in the SS trust fund and handing it to Wall
>> >>Street who will invest it in the riskiest craziest derivatives they
>> >>can invent. Doesn't anyone remember the banking collapse of 2008?
>> >>
>> >>So what do you think will happen to Social Security in the long
>> >>term if
>>that
>> >>happens? Or isn't it obvious? Also, whenever any republican
>> >>politician
>> >>has been asked over the last decade if the republicans would
>> >>consider giving governmental garantees to the beneficiaries of
>> >>privatized personalized Social Security accounts, they have ALL
>> >>WITHOUT EXEMPTION said ABSOLUTELY NO. So what does that mean? Well it
is very clear.
>> >>They, the Republicans, want to use our Social Security FICA
>> >>insurance which we paid for, invest it in toilet paper investments,
>> >>milk those investments for all they can, and then throw us under
>> >>the bus when those
>>"investments" inevitably go bust.
>> >>And if those aren't convincing enough reasons why we shouldn't
>> >>talk to republicans on this issue, then I don't know what reasons would
be.
>> >>
>> >>Also, I also wanted to clarify something. I didn't say that the
>> >>failure to negotiate a deal on the fiscal cliff by January 1st
>> >>would automatically effect anyone's social security check now. I
>> >>think maybe my previous posting was a little misunderstood.
>> >>
>> >>I was trying to explain that for the last three days, President and
>> >>House Minority leader Nancy Palosi have both said that they are
>> >>willing to cut the COLA Cost of Living Adjustment on Social
>> >>Security beneficiaries by 0.3 percent. I know this doesn't sound
>> >>like much, but it is a terribly frightening prospect for several
reasons.
>> >>
>> >>1( It would be the first time since the creation of Social Security
>> >>that direct monthly benefits would have been cut AT ALL.
>> >>
>> >>2) this minimum sounding cut is also accumulative. In about 10
>> >>years or less, every SSDI recipient will be receiving about an
>> >>average of
>> >>$1000.00 less annually. Can any of us afford that? I know I can't.
>> >>So this is a real cut, and not some kind of Consumer Pricing Index
>> >>readjustment as many are now claiming.
>> >>
>> >>And 3) This first historic cut to Social Security benefits will
>> >>open the DOOR WIDE OPEN to restricting and maybe privatizing Social
>> >>Security which would eventually doom the entire trust fund. And if
>> >>you need proof of that, then study what has happened to retirement
>> >>benefit programs in Latin American countries whenever those
>> >>countries have privatized or been forced to privatize their
>> >>retirement benefit programs. This craziness has all been tried
>> >>before to desasterous
>>effects.
>> >>
>> >>Of course, no one's checks will disappear immediately, but the long
>> >>term damage to Social Security may or probably will become
>> >>UNREPAIRABLE! So that is why we should worry about how these
>> >>fiscal cliff negotiations are going and exactly what the final
>> >>shape of any deal looks like. It isn't just our long term future
>> >>that's at stake, but what about when our kids retire or God forbid
>> >>become disabled like us?
>> >>
>> >>Finally, I myself am not trying to scare anyone. Besides, I think
>> >>the above facts are scary enough.
>> >>
>> >>Sincerely, Robert Ortiz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>> >>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:59 PM
>> >>To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >>Subject: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 43
>> >>
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>> >>"Re: Contents of nfb-talk digest..."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Today's Topics:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Re: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40 (Steven Johnson)
>> >> 2. Re: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40 (Steven Johnson)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>---
>> >>
>> >>Message: 1
>> >>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:55:11 -0600
>> >>From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> >>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>> >>Message-ID: <004401cddfce$3bb16170$b3142450$@charter.net>
>> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >>Chris, don't you mean House Majority Leader, John Boehner,
>> >>pronounced
>>Baner?
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>christopher nusbaum
>> >>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:45 PM
>> >>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> >>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>> >>
>> >>Robert,
>> >>
>> >>This may be more of a political issue than anything, but I'm just
>> >>wondering why you wouldn't recommend that we contact Republican
>> >>leaders in Congress, especially House majority leader John Weiner?
>> >>After all, they are involved in the negotiations just as much as
>> >>the Democrats are, and they need to know how we feel as well. Now,
>> >>if this is an inappropriate topics for list, or if it is a
>> >>political issue for you and you don't want to talk to the Republicans,
I understand that.
>> >>Just curious.
>> >>
>> >>Chris Nusbaum
>> >>
>> >>Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Robert Ortiz <bobby7391 at optimum.net>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I saw a message asking what the fiscal cliff has to do with the
>> >>>NFB and I wanted to answer that question. A WHOLE DAMN LOT
>> >>>ESPECIALLY TO ANYONE RECEIVING SSI OR SSDI! If an agreement isn't
>> >>>reached by January 1st for this bologna "Fiscal Cliff" which I'm
>> >>>praying for, then Social Security WILL NOT BE TOUCHED! But if
>> >>>President Obama and Nancy Palosi continue to offer the damn
>> >>>republicans a cut in the Annual Cost of Living Adjustment COLA for
>> >>>all Social Security recipients, as they have done over the last
>> >>>few days; then all of us blind SSDI recipients will experience our
>> >>>first real cut in our Social
>> >>Security benefits. And remember SSDI stands for Social Security
>> >>>Disability Insurance. And we all paid our FICA taxes over our work
>>lives
>> >>>to receive our DISABILITY INSURANCE! That's right IT'S INSURANCE
>> >>>WE PAID FOR, NOT A HANDOUT!
>> >>>
>> >>>So I seriously suggest to everyone who reads this to do as I have
>> >>>done.
>> >>>Call or email your home state's two senators, your house of
>> >>>representatives congressman for your county, Senate Majority
>> >>>leader Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Palosi, and
>> >>>President Obama to please not backstab America's blind and disabled!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>>nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>> >>>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:00 PM
>> >>>To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >>>Subject: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>> >>>
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>> >>>"Re: Contents of nfb-talk digest..."
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Today's Topics:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>> >>> (Kenneth Chrane)
>> >>> 2. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>> Sequestration (Humberto Avila)
>> >>> 3. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>> Sequestration (Mike Freeman)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>---
>> >>>-
>> >>>
>> >>>Message: 1
>> >>>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:11:50 -0500
>> >>>From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>> >>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>, "NFB of Maryland
>> >>> e-mail list" <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>> >>>Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>> Sequestration
>> >>>Message-ID: <CC61E7FF5F26432E9606B39208B1704E at Kens>
>> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >>>
>> >>>Email
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>> >>>To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>> >>>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>> >>>Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Dear Mr. Chrane:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>> >>deficit.
>> >>>It's good to hear from you.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>> >>>of solving tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to
>> >>>avoid the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and
>> >>>across-the-board cuts known as
>> >>sequester.
>> >>>Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>> >>>Americans would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that
>> >>>could bring our nation back into recession. The longer we delay
>> >>>the more damage we do to ourselves and the economy.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>> >>>have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>> >>>debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>> >>>contract between the American people and their government.
>> >>>Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted
>> >>>or block-granted.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>> >>>the fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start
>> >>>by letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making
>> >>>more than
>> >>$250,000 per year.
>> >>>This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>> >>>also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military
>> >>>and domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit. That's why
>> >>>I supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress in 2011 that
>> >>>would require $900 billion in cuts over
>> >>>10 years.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>> >>>to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>> >>>middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>> >>>revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>> >>>could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion
to our state economy.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>> >>>the fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our
>> >>>spending policy to reduce our national debt.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>> >>>is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>> >>>assistance to you in the future.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Sincerely,
>> >>>Barbara A. Mikulski
>> >>>United States Senator
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>> >>>e-mail account is not monitored.
>> >>>If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>> >>>comments page of my website here.
>> >>>If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>> >>>E-Newsletter here.
>> >>>Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>>Message: 2
>> >>>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:17:19 -0800
>> >>>From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>> >>>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff
>> >>>and
>> >>> Sequestration
>> >>>Message-ID: <007901cddf29$b0678580$11369080$@gmail.com>
>> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>>
>> >>>And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>>Kenneth Chrane
>> >>>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>> >>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>> >>>Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>> >>>Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>>Sequestration
>> >>>
>> >>>Email
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>> >>>To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>> >>>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>> >>>Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Dear Mr. Chrane:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the federal
>> >>deficit.
>> >>>It's good to hear from you.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>> >>>of solving tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to
>> >>>avoid the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and
>> >>>across-the-board cuts known as
>> >>sequester.
>> >>>Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>> >>>Americans would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that
>> >>>could bring our nation back into recession. The longer we delay
>> >>>the more damage we do to ourselves and the economy.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>> >>>have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>> >>>debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>> >>>contract between the American people and their government.
>> >>>Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not gutted
>> >>>or block-granted.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>> >>>the fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start
>> >>>by letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making
>> >>>more than
>> >>$250,000 per year.
>> >>>This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>> >>>also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both military
>> >>>and domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit. That's why
>> >>>I supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress in 2011 that
>> >>>would require $900 billion in cuts over
>> >>>10 years.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>> >>>to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>> >>>middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>> >>>revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>> >>>could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1 billion
to our state economy.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>> >>>the fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our
>> >>>spending policy to reduce our national debt.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>> >>>is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>> >>>assistance to you in the future.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Sincerely,
>> >>>Barbara A. Mikulski
>> >>>United States Senator
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>> >>>e-mail account is not monitored.
>> >>>If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>> >>>comments page of my website here.
>> >>>If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>> >>>E-Newsletter here.
>> >>>Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>> >>>
>> >>>_______________________________________________
>> >>>nfb-talk mailing list
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>> >>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>> >>>for
>> >>>nfb-talk:
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>> >>>umb
>> >>>e
>> >>>rto2%4
>> >>>0gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>>Message: 3
>> >>>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:26:49 -0800
>> >>>From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>> >>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff
>> >>>and
>> >>> Sequestration
>> >>>Message-ID: <FA5FCD01-4B82-498E-9B35-DFB84CD831E3 at panix.com>
>> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >>>
>> >>>Rehab funding.
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike Freeman
>> >>>sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>On Dec 20, 2012, at 19:17, "Humberto Avila"
>> >>><avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>>>Kenneth Chrane
>> >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>> >>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>> >>>>Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>> >>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>>>Sequestration
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Email
>> >>>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>> >>>>To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>> >>>>Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Dear Mr. Chrane:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the
>> >>>>federal
>> >>>deficit.
>> >>>>It's good to hear from you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>> >>>>of
>> >>>solving
>> >>>>tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to avoid the
>> >>>>devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts
>> >>>>known as
>> >>sequester.
>> >>>>Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>> >>>>Americans
>> >>>would
>> >>>>see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring our
>> >>>>nation back into recession. The longer we delay the more damage
>> >>>>we do to
>> >>>ourselves
>> >>>>and the economy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>> >>>>have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>> >>>>debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>> >>>>contract between the American people and their government.
>> >>>>Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not
>> >>>>gutted or
>>block-granted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>> >>>>the
>> >>>fiscal
>> >>>>cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start by letting
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more than
>> >>>>$250,000 per
>> >>>year.
>> >>>>This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>> >>>>also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both
>> >>>>military and domestic -
>> >>>that
>> >>>>will begin to reduce our deficit. That's why I supported the
>> >>>>Budget
>> >>>Control
>> >>>>Act passed by Congress in 2011 that would require $900 billion in
>> >>>>cuts
>> >>>over
>> >>>>10 years.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>> >>>>to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>> >>>>middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>> >>>>revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>> >>>>could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1
>> >>>>billion to our state economy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>> >>>>the
>> >>>fiscal
>> >>>>cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>> >>>>policy to reduce our national debt.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>> >>>>is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>> >>>>assistance to you
>> >>>in
>> >>>>the future.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Sincerely,
>> >>>>Barbara A. Mikulski
>> >>>>United States Senator
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>> >>>>e-mail account is not monitored.
>> >>>>If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>> >>>>comments page of my website here.
>> >>>>If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>> >>>E-Newsletter
>> >>>>here.
>> >>>>Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>_______________________________________________
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>> >>>umb
>> >>>e
>> >>>rto2%4
>> >>>>0gmail.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>> >>>>c
>> >>>>om
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>------------------------------
>> >>>
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>> >>har
>> >>ter.ne
>> >>t
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>Message: 2
>> >>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:58:49 -0600
>> >>From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> >>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>> >>Message-ID: <004501cddfce$bd59d310$380d7930$@charter.net>
>> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >>Chris,
>> >>
>> >>The problem in this country is not the revenue coming in, but the
>>spending.
>> >>Based on this, our Government needs to be responsible enough to
>> >>look at cuts across the board and this includes SSA benefits. My
>> >>hope that if a compromise canot be reached, all programs will be
>> >>looked at equally as far as cuts. I have read that implementing a
>> >>1% cut across the board in all Federal programs could get us out of
>> >>this mess, but no one will pull that proverbial trigger. Needless
>> >>to say, chances are that the COLA for SSA benefits would be ended just
for starters.
>> >>
>> >>Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>christopher nusbaum
>> >>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:36 PM
>> >>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> >>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>> >>
>> >>Ray,
>> >>
>> >>Although this is merely speculation at this point, I agree with you.
>> >>If an agreement is not reached by January 1, and even if an
>> >>agreement is reached on this fiscal cliff issue, some government
>> >>programs will most likely be either cut or eliminated. However, it
>> >>seems that most politicians think Social Security is an important
>> >>program, and most of the people I've heard say they don't want to
>> >>touch that program. So, I think those of you on SSI or SSDI will
>> >>not be affected. Still, it might be good to keep an eye on this issue.
>> >>
>> >>Chris Nusbaum
>> >>
>> >>Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I suspect that those of us on SSI and social security will receive
>> >>>our
>> >>checks. Pay no attention to scare tactis which may try to make you
>> >>think otherwise. Now, perhaps however, this may have a negative
>> >>effect on long term funding of educational programs; which, of
>> >>course,
>>would not be good.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Sincerely,
>> >>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> >>>Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> >>>
>> >>>On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Robert Ortiz <bobby7391 at optimum.net>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>I saw a message asking what the fiscal cliff has to do with the
>> >>>>NFB and I wanted to answer that question. A WHOLE DAMN LOT
>> >>>>ESPECIALLY TO ANYONE RECEIVING SSI OR SSDI! If an agreement
>> >>>>isn't reached by January 1st for this bologna "Fiscal Cliff"
>> >>>>which I'm praying for, then Social Security WILL NOT BE TOUCHED!
>> >>>>But if President Obama and Nancy Palosi continue to offer the
>> >>>>damn republicans a cut in the Annual Cost of Living Adjustment
>> >>>>COLA for all Social Security recipients, as they have done over
>> >>>>the last few days; then all of us blind SSDI recipients will
>> >>>>experience our first real cut in our Social
>> >>Security benefits. And remember SSDI stands for Social Security
>> >>>>Disability Insurance. And we all paid our FICA taxes over our work
>> >>lives
>> >>>>to receive our DISABILITY INSURANCE! That's right IT'S INSURANCE
>> >>>>WE PAID FOR, NOT A HANDOUT!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>So I seriously suggest to everyone who reads this to do as I have
>> >>>>done.
>> >>>>Call or email your home state's two senators, your house of
>> >>>>representatives congressman for your county, Senate Majority
>> >>>>leader Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Palosi, and
>> >>>>President Obama to please not backstab America's blind and disabled!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>>>nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:00 PM
>> >>>>To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>Subject: nfb-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 40
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Send nfb-talk mailing list submissions to
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>> >>>>
>> >>>>Today's Topics:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>> >>>> (Kenneth Chrane)
>> >>>> 2. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>>> Sequestration (Humberto Avila)
>> >>>> 3. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>>> Sequestration (Mike Freeman)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>---
>> >>>>-
>> >>>>-
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Message: 1
>> >>>>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:11:50 -0500
>> >>>>From: "Kenneth Chrane" <kenneth.chrane at verizon.net>
>> >>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>, "NFB of
>> >>>>Maryland
>> >>>> e-mail list" <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>> >>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>>> Sequestration
>> >>>>Message-ID: <CC61E7FF5F26432E9606B39208B1704E at Kens>
>> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Email
>> >>>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>> >>>>To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>> >>>>Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Dear Mr. Chrane:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the
>> >>>>federal
>> >>deficit.
>> >>>>It's good to hear from you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>> >>>>of solving tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to
>> >>>>avoid the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and
>> >>>>across-the-board cuts
>> >>known as sequester.
>> >>>>Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>> >>>>Americans would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that
>> >>>>could bring our nation back into recession. The longer we delay
>> >>>>the more damage we do to ourselves and the economy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>> >>>>have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>> >>>>debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>> >>>>contract between the American people and their government.
>> >>>>Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not
>> >>>>gutted or
>>block-granted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>> >>>>the fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start
>> >>>>by letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households
>> >>>>making more than
>> >>$250,000 per year.
>> >>>>This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>> >>>>also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both
>> >>>>military and domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit.
>> >>>>That's why I supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress
>> >>>>in 2011 that would require $900 billion in cuts over
>> >>>>10 years.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>> >>>>to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>> >>>>middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>> >>>>revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>> >>>>could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1
>> >>>>billion to our state economy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>> >>>>the fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our
>> >>>>spending policy to reduce our national debt.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>> >>>>is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>> >>>>assistance to you in the future.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Sincerely,
>> >>>>Barbara A. Mikulski
>> >>>>United States Senator
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Please do not respond directly to this e-mail. The originating
>> >>>>e-mail account is not monitored.
>> >>>>If you would like to get in touch with me again, please visit the
>> >>>>comments page of my website here.
>> >>>>If you would like to get regular updates, please sign up for my
>> >>>>E-Newsletter here.
>> >>>>Please follow me on Twitter and Facebook.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>------------------------------
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Message: 2
>> >>>>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:17:19 -0800
>> >>>>From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>> >>>>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff
>> >>>>and
>> >>>> Sequestration
>> >>>>Message-ID: <007901cddf29$b0678580$11369080$@gmail.com>
>> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>>>Kenneth Chrane
>> >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>> >>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>> >>>>Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>> >>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>>>Sequestration
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Email
>> >>>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>> >>>>To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>> >>>>Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Dear Mr. Chrane:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the
>> >>>>federal
>> >>deficit.
>> >>>>It's good to hear from you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Americans need to have a government on their side that is capable
>> >>>>of solving tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to
>> >>>>avoid the devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and
>> >>>>across-the-board cuts
>> >>known as sequester.
>> >>>>Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>> >>>>Americans would see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that
>> >>>>could bring our nation back into recession. The longer we delay
>> >>>>the more damage we do to ourselves and the economy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>> >>>>have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce our
>> >>>>debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the social
>> >>>>contract between the American people and their government.
>> >>>>Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not
>> >>>>gutted or
>>block-granted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to avoid
>> >>>>the fiscal cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start
>> >>>>by letting the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households
>> >>>>making more than
>> >>$250,000 per year.
>> >>>>This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>> >>>>also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both
>> >>>>military and domestic - that will begin to reduce our deficit.
>> >>>>That's why I supported the Budget Control Act passed by Congress
>> >>>>in 2011 that would require $900 billion in cuts over
>> >>>>10 years.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>> >>>>to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>> >>>>middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>> >>>>revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>> >>>>could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1
>> >>>>billion to our state economy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to prevent
>> >>>>the fiscal cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our
>> >>>>spending policy to reduce our national debt.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your views
>> >>>>is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be of any
>> >>>>assistance to you in the future.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Sincerely,
>> >>>>Barbara A. Mikulski
>> >>>>United States Senator
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>> >>>>
>> >>>>Message: 3
>> >>>>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:26:49 -0800
>> >>>>From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>> >>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff
>> >>>>and
>> >>>> Sequestration
>> >>>>Message-ID: <FA5FCD01-4B82-498E-9B35-DFB84CD831E3 at panix.com>
>> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Rehab funding.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Freeman
>> >>>>sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>
>> >>>>On Dec 20, 2012, at 19:17, "Humberto Avila"
>> >>>><avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>> >>>>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>And what does this have to do with the NFB? How are we impacted?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>>>>Kenneth Chrane
>> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
>> >>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List; NFB of Maryland e-mail list
>> >>>>>Cc: Blind_Democrats at yahoogroups.com
>> >>>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} Fw: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and
>> >>>>>Sequestration
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Email
>> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>From: senator at mikulski.senate.gov
>> >>>>>To: kenneth.chrane at verizon.net
>> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:40 AM
>> >>>>>Subject: Avoiding the Fiscal Cliff and Sequestration
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Dear Mr. Chrane:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Thank you for contacting me about the fiscal cliff and the
>> >>>>>federal
>> >>>>deficit.
>> >>>>>It's good to hear from you.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Americans need to have a government on their side that is
>> >>>>>capable of
>> >>>>solving
>> >>>>>tough problems. That's why Congress must act now to avoid the
>> >>>>>devastating impact of the fiscal cliff and across-the-board cuts
>> >>>>>known
>> >>as sequester.
>> >>>>>Without swift action to avoid the fiscal cliff, millions of
>> >>>>>Americans
>> >>>>would
>> >>>>>see their taxes go up and face spending cuts that could bring
>> >>>>>our nation back into recession. The longer we delay the more
>> >>>>>damage we do to
>> >>>>ourselves
>> >>>>>and the economy.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>My principles for avoiding the fiscal cliff are simple. We must
>> >>>>>have a combination of spending cuts and new revenue to reduce
>> >>>>>our debt and still grow the economy. We must also protect the
>> >>>>>social contract between the American people and their government.
>> >>>>>Medicare and Medicaid need to be reformed and refreshed not
>> >>>>>gutted or
>> >>block-granted.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I believe there are ways to achieve the savings required to
>> >>>>>avoid the
>> >>>>fiscal
>> >>>>>cliff in a balanced and thoughtful way. We can start by letting
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire for households making more than
>> >>>>>$250,000 per
>> >>>>year.
>> >>>>>This could save an estimated $700 billion over 10 years. We can
>> >>>>>also make thoughtful and balanced cuts to spending - both
>> >>>>>military and domestic -
>> >>>>that
>> >>>>>will begin to reduce our deficit. That's why I supported the
>> >>>>>Budget
>> >>>>Control
>> >>>>>Act passed by Congress in 2011 that would require $900 billion
>> >>>>>in cuts
>> >>>>over
>> >>>>>10 years.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>What we can't do, however, is use across-the-board spending cuts
>> >>>>>to get us to a balanced budget. It would unfairly harm
>> >>>>>middle-class families and do nothing to raise the additional
>> >>>>>revenue needed to reduce the deficit. In Maryland alone, this
>> >>>>>could result in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and $3.1
>> >>>>>billion to our state
>>economy.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to
>> >>>>>prevent the
>> >>>>fiscal
>> >>>>>cliff and make thoughtful and balanced changes to our spending
>> >>>>>policy to reduce our national debt.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Knowing of your
>> >>>>>views is very important to me. Please let me know if I can be
>> >>>>>of any assistance to you
>> >>>>in
>> >>>>>the future.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Sincerely,
>> >>>>>Barbara A. Mikulski
>> >>>>>United States Senator
>
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