[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Sun Jul 15 19:48:35 UTC 2012

nice, the other organization is $20.00
On 7/15/2012 2:36 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
> Dues are only $5.00.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 7/15/12, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank you for your quick responses to my questions. The only money I have
>> now is around perhaps $30 in my iTunes account and $50 in cash, so I don't
>> have much to offer in donations.
>>
>> sent from the android. good day and God bless!
>> On Jul 15, 2012 2:22 PM, "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Roger:
>>> You don't have to attend conventions, to be a member.
>>> Just make donations, and support.
>>> BTW, the NFB is the voice of the nation's blind.
>>> We give free white canes to people, and if you need one, you can order
>>> one off of the site.
>>> You will also notice, that there is more emphasis on education, than
>>> what the other group offers.
>>> I've heard speeches by some of the other group's leaders, where
>>> they're rude and disrespectfull to the NFB, but I've never heard Dr
>>> Maurer say anything bad about the other group.
>>> Our conventions are more civil, than what I've heard, from the other
>>> group.
>>> I was almost sold on the ACB, several years ago, but I was smart
>>> enough to do my research.
>>> I almost fell for the accessible currency nonsense, until I saw the
>>> light, so to speak, and I knew, that the NFB was for me!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/15/12, Roger devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hmm, well I would need to look into the process of joining. I may not
>>>> be
>>>> able to come to many conventions and stuff but I'd join I guess. I just
>>> need
>>>> to find out more about it and what it stands for and what all it
>>>> offers.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gloria Whipple" <glowhi at centurylink.net>
>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:10 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>>>> NFB,please read.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I hope you do! The nfb cares about their members. They are such good
>>>>> supporters when needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 14:05
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>>>>> NFB,
>>>>> please read.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they actually
>>>>> provide
>>>>>
>>>>> services like the NFB newsline and things like that, and I don't
>>>>> really
>>>>> know
>>>>>
>>>>> of any that the ACB provides besides their ACB radio thing.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>>>>> NFB,
>>>>> please read.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad to hear this!
>>>>> Welcome to the NFB!
>>>>> Another convert here!
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
>>> sure.
>>>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly
>>>>>> involved
>>>>>> in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this years
>>> convention
>>>>>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why. Now,
>>>>>> before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not trying
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the biggest
>>>>>> complaint
>>>>>> I had, was I felt the conference/convention was very disorganized.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> roll call of states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the
>>>>>> "fat"
>>>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize people
>>> were
>>>>>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not good
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as some of you
>>>>>> know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the subminimum
>>> wages.
>>>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is taken from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the Blind) definitely
>>>>>> supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>>>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo
>>>>>> Marc Maurer, President
>>>>>> 200 East Wells Street
>>>>>> at Jernigan Place
>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>>>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653
>>>>>> www.nfb.org
>>>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011
>>>>>> H.R. 3086
>>>>>> Disabled workers have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum
>>>>>> wage for 74 years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are
>>>>>> working
>>>>>> for subminimum wages.
>>>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>>>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the Secretary
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Labor to grant special wage certificates to employers, permitting
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> to pay their workers with disabilities less than the minimum wage,
>>> often
>>>>>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> being paid pennies per hour.
>>>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>>>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>>>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>>>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
>>> misconception
>>>>>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed.
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and tools,
>>>>>> workers with disabilities can be productive and financially
>>> independent.
>>>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters the
>>>>>> underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c) was only
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be used "to the extent necessary to prevent curtailment of
>>>>>> opportunities" for employment of people with disabilities. Instead,
>>>>>> subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have eroded into day custody
>>>>>> centers, limiting opportunities for workers with disabilities ever to
>>>>>> transition into integrated, competitive work. These institutions
>>> instill
>>>>>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
>>>>>> resulting in long-term underemployment.
>>>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>>>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
>>> disabled
>>>>>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in
>>> their
>>>>>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations, preferred
>>>>>> status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal funding.
>>> Moreover,
>>>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>>>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>>>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The
>>>>>> economics
>>>>>> overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers, encouraging the
>>>>>> perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and leaving workers with
>>>>>> disabilities little to no choice for real employment.
>>>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>>>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates. The
>>>>>> secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage certificates to
>>> new
>>>>>> applicants.
>>>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
>>> period.
>>>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>>>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
>>> federal
>>>>>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1
>>>>>> year;
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked after 2
>>>>>> years; and
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>>>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is
>>>>>> enacted,
>>>>>> the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage will be
>>>>>> officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will no longer be
>>>>>> excluded from the workforce protection of a federal minimum wage.
>>>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>>>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>>>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>>>>>> H.R. 3086
>>>>>> For more information contact:
>>>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org
>>>>>> To cosponsor the bill, contact:
>>>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>>>>>> -OR-
>>>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov
>>>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>>>> Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's convention, there was a "do
>>> not
>>>>>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset, and
>>>>>> proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future of the
>>>>>> BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try, once I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
>>>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>>> Mike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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