[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sun Jul 15 21:56:48 CDT 2012


Wow!
Good to see you here!
You're in MN?
http://www.nfbmn.org
Thanks, Joshua

On 7/15/12, qubit <lauraeaves at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I disagree -- acbradio is a good resource -- I mean, how many thousand
> people listen to Main "Menu" to get the low down on the latest adaptive
> technology?  (Actually I haven't listened to Main Menu in quite some time --
>
> is it still on the air?)
> I haven't listened to any of their other programming, but I always thought
> acbradio was a good resource.
> Now on another note, where do I go to find my local chapter website? I
> haven't paid my dues...
> --le
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> NFB,please read.
>
>
> Ray has a good point. Further more, why would we want to have a radio
> station, so we can be like the other guys? The NFB does not need a radio
> station, as we are into getting things done. A radio station for those who
> do not choose to work, which I know is no one here, to sit around and
> listen
> to. I think the NFB would rather try to help put those people to work,
> making money and income.
>
> 2cents worth,
> Marsha
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:44 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> NFB,please read.
>
> And, with what money would you fund this radio station and take away help
> from those blind people who need our help?  With what money would you hire
> the staff, blind or sighted?
>
> Point is this.  Just think how much money is being exausted by the other
> folks with their fancy station.  To what better use might that money be
> put?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>
>> Why can't the NFB take "Through Our Eyes," and turn it into KNFB Radio?
>> The NFB needs its own radio station!
>> Thanks, Joshua
>>
>> On 7/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>> Not to mention which, the ACB complained when we set up our NFB Newsline
>>> service.  Jallous maybe because we were the ones who did it.
>>>
>>> I might point out that we stream our national conventions now; and,  the
>>> stream actually works.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Roger devin Prater wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they actually
>>>> provide services like the NFB newsline and things like that, and I
>>>> don't
>>>> really know of any that the ACB provides besides their ACB radio thing.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> NFB,
>>>> please read.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glad to hear this!
>>>> Welcome to the NFB!
>>>> Another convert here!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
> sure.
>>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly
>>>>> involved
>>>>> in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this years
> convention
>>>>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why. Now,
>>>>> before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not trying to
>>>>> bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the biggest
>>>>> complaint
>>>>> I had, was I felt the conference/convention was very disorganized. The
>>>>> roll call of states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the "fat"
>>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize people
> were
>>>>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not good
>>>>> as
>>>>> in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as some of you
>>>>> know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the subminimum
> wages.
>>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then
>>>>> their
>>>>> sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is taken from
>>>>> the
>>>>> publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the Blind) definitely
>>>>> supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo
>>>>> Marc Maurer, President
>>>>> 200 East Wells Street
>>>>> at Jernigan Place
>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653
>>>>> www.nfb.org
>>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011
>>>>> H.R. 3086
>>>>> Disabled workers have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum
>>>>> wage for 74 years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working
>>>>> for subminimum wages.
>>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the Secretary of
>>>>> Labor to grant special wage certificates to employers, permitting them
>>>>> to pay their workers with disabilities less than the minimum wage,
> often
>>>>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers are
>>>>> being paid pennies per hour.
>>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
> misconception
>>>>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed. In
>>>>> reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and tools,
>>>>> workers with disabilities can be productive and financially
> independent.
>>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters the
>>>>> underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c) was only
>>>>> to
>>>>> be used "to the extent necessary to prevent curtailment of
>>>>> opportunities" for employment of people with disabilities. Instead,
>>>>> subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have eroded into day custody
>>>>> centers, limiting opportunities for workers with disabilities ever to
>>>>> transition into integrated, competitive work. These institutions
> instill
>>>>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
>>>>> resulting in long-term underemployment.
>>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
> disabled
>>>>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in
> their
>>>>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations, preferred
>>>>> status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal funding.
> Moreover,
>>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The
>>>>> economics
>>>>> overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers, encouraging the
>>>>> perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and leaving workers with
>>>>> disabilities little to no choice for real employment.
>>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates. The
>>>>> secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage certificates to
> new
>>>>> applicants.
>>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
> period.
>>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
> federal
>>>>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>>>>> .
>>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1
>>>>> year;
>>>>> .
>>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked after 2
>>>>> years; and
>>>>> .
>>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is
>>>>> enacted,
>>>>> the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage will be
>>>>> officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will no longer be
>>>>> excluded from the workforce protection of a federal minimum wage.
>>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>>>>> H.R. 3086
>>>>> For more information contact:
>>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org
>>>>> To cosponsor the bill, contact:
>>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>>>>> -OR-
>>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov
>>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>>> Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's convention, there was a "do
> not
>>>>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset, and
>>>>> proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future of the
>>>>> BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try, once I can
>>>>> afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>> Mike.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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