[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

ckrugman at sbcglobal.net ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jul 16 03:05:55 UTC 2012 

you need to get in contacdt with someone in your state to find out if there 
is a local chapter in your area. The annual chapter dues which include your 
NFB dues very. In our local chapter they are $10 per year.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Devin Prater" <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, 
please read.


> Thank you for your quick responses to my questions. The only money I have
> now is around perhaps $30 in my iTunes account and $50 in cash, so I don't
> have much to offer in donations.
>
> sent from the android. good day and God bless!
> On Jul 15, 2012 2:22 PM, "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Roger:
>> You don't have to attend conventions, to be a member.
>> Just make donations, and support.
>> BTW, the NFB is the voice of the nation's blind.
>> We give free white canes to people, and if you need one, you can order
>> one off of the site.
>> You will also notice, that there is more emphasis on education, than
>> what the other group offers.
>> I've heard speeches by some of the other group's leaders, where
>> they're rude and disrespectfull to the NFB, but I've never heard Dr
>> Maurer say anything bad about the other group.
>> Our conventions are more civil, than what I've heard, from the other 
>> group.
>> I was almost sold on the ACB, several years ago, but I was smart
>> enough to do my research.
>> I almost fell for the accessible currency nonsense, until I saw the
>> light, so to speak, and I knew, that the NFB was for me!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 7/15/12, Roger devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hmm, well I would need to look into the process of joining. I may not 
>> > be
>> > able to come to many conventions and stuff but I'd join I guess. I just
>> need
>> >
>> > to find out more about it and what it stands for and what all it 
>> > offers.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Gloria Whipple" <glowhi at centurylink.net>
>> > To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:10 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> > NFB,please read.
>> >
>> >
>> >>I hope you do! The nfb cares about their members. They are such good
>> >> supporters when needed.
>> >>
>> >> Gloria Whipple
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> >> Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 14:05
>> >> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> >> NFB,
>> >> please read.
>> >>
>> >> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they actually
>> >> provide
>> >>
>> >> services like the NFB newsline and things like that, and I don't 
>> >> really
>> >> know
>> >>
>> >> of any that the ACB provides besides their ACB radio thing.
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> >> NFB,
>> >> please read.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Glad to hear this!
>> >> Welcome to the NFB!
>> >> Another convert here!
>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>
>> >> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>> >>> Hello.
>> >>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
>> sure.
>> >>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly 
>> >>> involved
>> >>> in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this years
>> convention
>> >>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why. Now,
>> >>> before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not trying 
>> >>> to
>> >>> bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the biggest 
>> >>> complaint
>> >>> I had, was I felt the conference/convention was very disorganized. 
>> >>> The
>> >>> roll call of states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the 
>> >>> "fat"
>> >>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize people
>> were
>> >>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not good 
>> >>> as
>> >>> in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as some of you
>> >>> know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the subminimum
>> wages.
>> >>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then 
>> >>> their
>> >>> sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is taken from 
>> >>> the
>> >>> publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the Blind) definitely
>> >>> supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>> >>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>> >>> National Federation of the Blind Logo
>> >>> Marc Maurer, President
>> >>> 200 East Wells Street
>> >>> at Jernigan Place
>> >>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>> >>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653
>> >>> www.nfb.org
>> >>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011
>> >>> H.R. 3086
>> >>> Disabled workers have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum
>> >>> wage for 74 years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are 
>> >>> working
>> >>> for subminimum wages.
>> >>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>> >>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the Secretary 
>> >>> of
>> >>> Labor to grant special wage certificates to employers, permitting 
>> >>> them
>> >>> to pay their workers with disabilities less than the minimum wage,
>> often
>> >>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers 
>> >>> are
>> >>> being paid pennies per hour.
>> >>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>> >>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>> >>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>> >>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
>> misconception
>> >>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed. 
>> >>> In
>> >>> reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and tools,
>> >>> workers with disabilities can be productive and financially
>> independent.
>> >>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters the
>> >>> underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c) was only 
>> >>> to
>> >>> be used "to the extent necessary to prevent curtailment of
>> >>> opportunities" for employment of people with disabilities. Instead,
>> >>> subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have eroded into day custody
>> >>> centers, limiting opportunities for workers with disabilities ever to
>> >>> transition into integrated, competitive work. These institutions
>> instill
>> >>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
>> >>> resulting in long-term underemployment.
>> >>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>> >>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
>> disabled
>> >>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in
>> their
>> >>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations, preferred
>> >>> status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal funding.
>> Moreover,
>> >>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>> >>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>> >>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The 
>> >>> economics
>> >>> overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers, encouraging the
>> >>> perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and leaving workers with
>> >>> disabilities little to no choice for real employment.
>> >>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>> >>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates. The
>> >>> secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage certificates to
>> new
>> >>> applicants.
>> >>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
>> period.
>> >>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>> >>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
>> federal
>> >>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>> >>> .
>> >>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1 
>> >>> year;
>> >>> .
>> >>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked after 2
>> >>> years; and
>> >>> .
>> >>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>> >>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is 
>> >>> enacted,
>> >>> the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage will be
>> >>> officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will no longer be
>> >>> excluded from the workforce protection of a federal minimum wage.
>> >>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>> >>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>> >>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>> >>> H.R. 3086
>> >>> For more information contact:
>> >>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications
>> >>> National Federation of the Blind
>> >>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org
>> >>> To cosponsor the bill, contact:
>> >>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>> >>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>> >>> -OR-
>> >>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>> >>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov
>> >>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>> >>> Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's convention, there was a "do
>> not
>> >>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset, and
>> >>> proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future of the
>> >>> BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try, once I 
>> >>> can
>> >>> afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
>> >>> Thanks for reading.
>> >>> Mike.
>> >>>
>> >>>
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