[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

don nepple dnepple at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 16 05:14:16 UTC 2012


well mike good poast good too have you on bord now on too the radio i have too think about i do not have the money too go to nfbn but haveing a radistatechen well oi do not know it might be oo cay but then we do have news line so has i think about this no.now on too the streem it did not work for me i think that becuse i did not have cookes that is maby i could lissen too it.but agan mike glaed too have you on bord get your duse padyed.o wher are you frum i am frum idaho.
 

> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:16:12 -0500
> From: jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.
> 
> I've noticed something!
> They have Dr Jernigan's and Dr Maurer's speeches, but why aren't there
> any old recordings of Dr Tenbroek, on the site to listen to?
> Thanks, Joshua
> 
> On 7/15/12, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> > Go to the NFB web site, then to "Members" and you'll find links to
> > affiliates and divisions.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of qubit
> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:53 PM
> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB,
> > please read.
> >
> > I disagree -- acbradio is a good resource -- I mean, how many thousand
> > people listen to Main "Menu" to get the low down on the latest adaptive
> > technology? (Actually I haven't listened to Main Menu in quite some time
> > --
> > is it still on the air?) I haven't listened to any of their other
> > programming, but I always thought acbradio was a good resource.
> > Now on another note, where do I go to find my local chapter website? I
> > haven't paid my dues...
> > --le
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> > NFB,please read.
> >
> >
> > Ray has a good point. Further more, why would we want to have a radio
> > station, so we can be like the other guys? The NFB does not need a radio
> > station, as we are into getting things done. A radio station for those who
> > do not choose to work, which I know is no one here, to sit around and
> > listen
> > to. I think the NFB would rather try to help put those people to work,
> > making money and income.
> >
> > 2cents worth,
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:44 PM
> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> > NFB,please read.
> >
> > And, with what money would you fund this radio station and take away help
> > from those blind people who need our help? With what money would you hire
> > the staff, blind or sighted?
> >
> > Point is this. Just think how much money is being exausted by the other
> > folks with their fancy station. To what better use might that money be
> > put?
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
> >
> > On Jul 15, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
> >
> >> Why can't the NFB take "Through Our Eyes," and turn it into KNFB Radio?
> >> The NFB needs its own radio station!
> >> Thanks, Joshua
> >>
> >> On 7/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> >>> Not to mention which, the ACB complained when we set up our NFB
> >>> Newsline service. Jallous maybe because we were the ones who did it.
> >>>
> >>> I might point out that we stream our national conventions now; and,
> >>> the stream actually works.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>
> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >>>
> >>> Skype name:
> >>> barefootedray
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Roger devin Prater wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they actually
> >>>> provide services like the NFB newsline and things like that, and I
> >>>> don't really know of any that the ACB provides besides their ACB radio
> > thing.
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
> >>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining
> >>>> the
> > NFB,
> >>>> please read.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Glad to hear this!
> >>>> Welcome to the NFB!
> >>>> Another convert here!
> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Hello.
> >>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
> > sure.
> >>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly
> >>>>> involved in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this
> >>>>> years
> > convention
> >>>>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why. Now,
> >>>>> before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not trying
> >>>>> to bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the biggest
> >>>>> complaint I had, was I felt the conference/convention was very
> >>>>> disorganized. The roll call of states, seemed very disorganized, and
> > honestly, the "fat"
> >>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize people
> > were
> >>>>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not
> >>>>> good as in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as
> >>>>> some of you know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the
> >>>>> subminimum
> > wages.
> >>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then
> >>>>> their sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is
> >>>>> taken from the publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the
> >>>>> Blind) definitely supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
> >>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
> >>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo Marc Maurer, President
> >>>>> 200 East Wells Street
> >>>>> at Jernigan Place
> >>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
> >>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653 www.nfb.org The Fair Wages for
> >>>>> Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011 H.R. 3086 Disabled workers
> >>>>> have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum wage for 74
> >>>>> years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working for
> >>>>> subminimum wages.
> >>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
> >>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the Secretary
> >>>>> of Labor to grant special wage certificates to employers,
> >>>>> permitting them to pay their workers with disabilities less than
> >>>>> the minimum wage,
> > often
> >>>>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers
> >>>>> are being paid pennies per hour.
> >>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
> >>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
> >>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
> >>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
> > misconception
> >>>>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed.
> >>>>> In reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and
> >>>>> tools, workers with disabilities can be productive and financially
> > independent.
> >>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters
> >>>>> the underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c) was
> >>>>> only to be used "to the extent necessary to prevent curtailment of
> >>>>> opportunities" for employment of people with disabilities. Instead,
> >>>>> subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have eroded into day custody
> >>>>> centers, limiting opportunities for workers with disabilities ever
> >>>>> to transition into integrated, competitive work. These institutions
> > instill
> >>>>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling
> >>>>> prophecy resulting in long-term underemployment.
> >>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
> >>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
> > disabled
> >>>>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in
> > their
> >>>>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations, preferred
> >>>>> status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal funding.
> > Moreover,
> >>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
> >>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
> >>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The
> >>>>> economics overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers,
> >>>>> encouraging the perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and
> >>>>> leaving workers with disabilities little to no choice for real
> > employment.
> >>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
> >>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates. The
> >>>>> secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage certificates
> >>>>> to
> > new
> >>>>> applicants.
> >>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
> > period.
> >>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
> >>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
> > federal
> >>>>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
> >>>>> .
> >>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1
> >>>>> year; .
> >>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked after
> >>>>> 2 years; and .
> >>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
> >>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is
> >>>>> enacted, the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage
> >>>>> will be officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will no
> >>>>> longer be excluded from the workforce protection of a federal minimum
> > wage.
> >>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
> >>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
> >>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act H.R.
> >>>>> 3086 For more information contact:
> >>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications National
> >>>>> Federation of the Blind
> >>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org To
> >>>>> cosponsor the bill, contact:
> >>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
> >>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
> >>>>> -OR-
> >>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
> >>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov Voice of
> >>>>> the Nation's Blind Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's
> >>>>> convention, there was a "do
> > not
> >>>>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset, and
> >>>>> proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future of
> >>>>> the BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try,
> >>>>> once I can afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
> >>>>> Thanks for reading.
> >>>>> Mike.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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