[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Mon Jul 16 12:23:31 UTC 2012

What would be nice is to be able to pay the folks who run it.  After all, 
we're all about employment opportunities!  Maybe do it like subscription 
radio so monies could be raised to keep it going.  And, any profits could go 
to improve us blind folks!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the 
NFB,please read.


>I disagree -- acbradio is a good resource -- I mean, how many thousand
> people listen to Main "Menu" to get the low down on the latest adaptive
> technology?  (Actually I haven't listened to Main Menu in quite some 
> time --
> is it still on the air?)
> I haven't listened to any of their other programming, but I always thought
> acbradio was a good resource.
> Now on another note, where do I go to find my local chapter website? I
> haven't paid my dues...
> --le
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> NFB,please read.
>
>
> Ray has a good point. Further more, why would we want to have a radio
> station, so we can be like the other guys? The NFB does not need a radio
> station, as we are into getting things done. A radio station for those who
> do not choose to work, which I know is no one here, to sit around and 
> listen
> to. I think the NFB would rather try to help put those people to work,
> making money and income.
>
> 2cents worth,
> Marsha
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:44 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> NFB,please read.
>
> And, with what money would you fund this radio station and take away help
> from those blind people who need our help?  With what money would you hire
> the staff, blind or sighted?
>
> Point is this.  Just think how much money is being exausted by the other
> folks with their fancy station.  To what better use might that money be 
> put?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>
>> Why can't the NFB take "Through Our Eyes," and turn it into KNFB Radio?
>> The NFB needs its own radio station!
>> Thanks, Joshua
>>
>> On 7/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>> Not to mention which, the ACB complained when we set up our NFB Newsline
>>> service.  Jallous maybe because we were the ones who did it.
>>>
>>> I might point out that we stream our national conventions now; and,  the
>>> stream actually works.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Roger devin Prater wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they actually
>>>> provide services like the NFB newsline and things like that, and I 
>>>> don't
>>>> really know of any that the ACB provides besides their ACB radio thing.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> NFB,
>>>> please read.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glad to hear this!
>>>> Welcome to the NFB!
>>>> Another convert here!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
> sure.
>>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly 
>>>>> involved
>>>>> in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this years
> convention
>>>>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why. Now,
>>>>> before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not trying to
>>>>> bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the biggest 
>>>>> complaint
>>>>> I had, was I felt the conference/convention was very disorganized. The
>>>>> roll call of states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the "fat"
>>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize people
> were
>>>>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not good 
>>>>> as
>>>>> in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as some of you
>>>>> know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the subminimum
> wages.
>>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then 
>>>>> their
>>>>> sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is taken from 
>>>>> the
>>>>> publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the Blind) definitely
>>>>> supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo
>>>>> Marc Maurer, President
>>>>> 200 East Wells Street
>>>>> at Jernigan Place
>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653
>>>>> www.nfb.org
>>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011
>>>>> H.R. 3086
>>>>> Disabled workers have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum
>>>>> wage for 74 years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working
>>>>> for subminimum wages.
>>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the Secretary of
>>>>> Labor to grant special wage certificates to employers, permitting them
>>>>> to pay their workers with disabilities less than the minimum wage,
> often
>>>>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers are
>>>>> being paid pennies per hour.
>>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
> misconception
>>>>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed. In
>>>>> reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and tools,
>>>>> workers with disabilities can be productive and financially
> independent.
>>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters the
>>>>> underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c) was only 
>>>>> to
>>>>> be used "to the extent necessary to prevent curtailment of
>>>>> opportunities" for employment of people with disabilities. Instead,
>>>>> subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have eroded into day custody
>>>>> centers, limiting opportunities for workers with disabilities ever to
>>>>> transition into integrated, competitive work. These institutions
> instill
>>>>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
>>>>> resulting in long-term underemployment.
>>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
> disabled
>>>>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in
> their
>>>>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations, preferred
>>>>> status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal funding.
> Moreover,
>>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The 
>>>>> economics
>>>>> overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers, encouraging the
>>>>> perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and leaving workers with
>>>>> disabilities little to no choice for real employment.
>>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates. The
>>>>> secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage certificates to
> new
>>>>> applicants.
>>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
> period.
>>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
> federal
>>>>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>>>>> .
>>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1 
>>>>> year;
>>>>> .
>>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked after 2
>>>>> years; and
>>>>> .
>>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is 
>>>>> enacted,
>>>>> the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage will be
>>>>> officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will no longer be
>>>>> excluded from the workforce protection of a federal minimum wage.
>>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>>>>> H.R. 3086
>>>>> For more information contact:
>>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org
>>>>> To cosponsor the bill, contact:
>>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>>>>> -OR-
>>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov
>>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>>> Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's convention, there was a "do
> not
>>>>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset, and
>>>>> proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future of the
>>>>> BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try, once I can
>>>>> afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>> Mike.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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