[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Ray Foret Jr rforetjr at att.net
Mon Jul 16 20:56:38 UTC 2012 

For my part, I wish some people would properly punctuate their sentences.  Using an Iphone or other touch device is no excuse.  I know of lists where, let one word be misspelled, let one single punctuation mark be out of place, and you get thrown off the list.  

Honestly, I think people are becoming sloppy with their writing not only because they're using short form  writing on a touch screen device; but, also, the art of truly good writing is vanishing.  It almost seems as if nobody knows how to write correctly anymore;  let alone write well.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:

> I wish people would spell correctly and do not use short form in typing. it makes it sound gibberish to a screen reader without proper words written.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: don nepple
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 1:14 AM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.
> 
> 
> well mike good poast good too have you on bord now on too the radio i have too think about i do not have the money too go to nfbn but haveing a radistatechen well oi do not know it might be oo cay but then we do have news line so has i think about this no.now on too the streem it did not work for me i think that becuse i did not have cookes that is maby i could lissen too it.but agan mike glaed too have you on bord get your duse padyed.o wher are you frum i am frum idaho.
> 
> 
>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:16:12 -0500
>> From: jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.
>> 
>> I've noticed something!
>> They have Dr Jernigan's and Dr Maurer's speeches, but why aren't there
>> any old recordings of Dr Tenbroek, on the site to listen to?
>> Thanks, Joshua
>> 
>> On 7/15/12, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>> > Go to the NFB web site, then to "Members" and you'll find links to
>> > affiliates and divisions.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On
>> > Behalf Of qubit
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:53 PM
>> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the > NFB,
>> > please read.
>> >
>> > I disagree -- acbradio is a good resource -- I mean, how many thousand
>> > people listen to Main "Menu" to get the low down on the latest adaptive
>> > technology? (Actually I haven't listened to Main Menu in quite some time
>> > --
>> > is it still on the air?) I haven't listened to any of their other
>> > programming, but I always thought acbradio was a good resource.
>> > Now on another note, where do I go to find my local chapter website? I
>> > haven't paid my dues...
>> > --le
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>> > To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:59 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> > NFB,please read.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ray has a good point. Further more, why would we want to have a radio
>> > station, so we can be like the other guys? The NFB does not need a radio
>> > station, as we are into getting things done. A radio station for those > who
>> > do not choose to work, which I know is no one here, to sit around and
>> > listen
>> > to. I think the NFB would rather try to help put those people to work,
>> > making money and income.
>> >
>> > 2cents worth,
>> > Marsha
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On
>> > Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:44 PM
>> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> > NFB,please read.
>> >
>> > And, with what money would you fund this radio station and take away > help
>> > from those blind people who need our help? With what money would you > hire
>> > the staff, blind or sighted?
>> >
>> > Point is this. Just think how much money is being exausted by the other
>> > folks with their fancy station. To what better use might that money be
>> > put?
>> >
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> >
>> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> >
>> > Skype name:
>> > barefootedray
>> >
>> > On Jul 15, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why can't the NFB take "Through Our Eyes," and turn it into KNFB Radio?
>> >> The NFB needs its own radio station!
>> >> Thanks, Joshua
>> >>
>> >> On 7/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>> >>> Not to mention which, the ACB complained when we set up our NFB
>> >>> Newsline service. Jallous maybe because we were the ones who did it.
>> >>>
>> >>> I might point out that we stream our national conventions now; and,
>> >>> the stream actually works.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Skype name:
>> >>> barefootedray
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Roger devin Prater wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they actually
>> >>>> provide services like the NFB newsline and things like that, and I
>> >>>> don't really know of any that the ACB provides besides their ACB >>>> radio
>> > thing.
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>> >>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining
>> >>>> the
>> > NFB,
>> >>>> please read.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Glad to hear this!
>> >>>> Welcome to the NFB!
>> >>>> Another convert here!
>> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hello.
>> >>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
>> > sure.
>> >>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly
>> >>>>> involved in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this
>> >>>>> years
>> > convention
>> >>>>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why. Now,
>> >>>>> before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not trying
>> >>>>> to bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the biggest
>> >>>>> complaint I had, was I felt the conference/convention was very
>> >>>>> disorganized. The roll call of states, seemed very disorganized, and
>> > honestly, the "fat"
>> >>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize people
>> > were
>> >>>>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not
>> >>>>> good as in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as
>> >>>>> some of you know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the
>> >>>>> subminimum
>> > wages.
>> >>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then
>> >>>>> their sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is
>> >>>>> taken from the publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the
>> >>>>> Blind) definitely supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>> >>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>> >>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo Marc Maurer, President
>> >>>>> 200 East Wells Street
>> >>>>> at Jernigan Place
>> >>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>> >>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653 www.nfb.org The Fair Wages for
>> >>>>> Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011 H.R. 3086 Disabled workers
>> >>>>> have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum wage for 74
>> >>>>> years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working for
>> >>>>> subminimum wages.
>> >>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>> >>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the Secretary
>> >>>>> of Labor to grant special wage certificates to employers,
>> >>>>> permitting them to pay their workers with disabilities less than
>> >>>>> the minimum wage,
>> > often
>> >>>>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers
>> >>>>> are being paid pennies per hour.
>> >>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>> >>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>> >>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>> >>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
>> > misconception
>> >>>>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed.
>> >>>>> In reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and
>> >>>>> tools, workers with disabilities can be productive and financially
>> > independent.
>> >>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters
>> >>>>> the underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c) was
>> >>>>> only to be used "to the extent necessary to prevent curtailment of
>> >>>>> opportunities" for employment of people with disabilities. Instead,
>> >>>>> subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have eroded into day custody
>> >>>>> centers, limiting opportunities for workers with disabilities ever
>> >>>>> to transition into integrated, competitive work. These institutions
>> > instill
>> >>>>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling
>> >>>>> prophecy resulting in long-term underemployment.
>> >>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>> >>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
>> > disabled
>> >>>>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in
>> > their
>> >>>>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations, preferred
>> >>>>> status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal funding.
>> > Moreover,
>> >>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>> >>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>> >>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The
>> >>>>> economics overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers,
>> >>>>> encouraging the perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and
>> >>>>> leaving workers with disabilities little to no choice for real
>> > employment.
>> >>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>> >>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates. The
>> >>>>> secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage certificates
>> >>>>> to
>> > new
>> >>>>> applicants.
>> >>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
>> > period.
>> >>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>> >>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
>> > federal
>> >>>>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1
>> >>>>> year; .
>> >>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked after
>> >>>>> 2 years; and .
>> >>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>> >>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is
>> >>>>> enacted, the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage
>> >>>>> will be officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will no
>> >>>>> longer be excluded from the workforce protection of a federal >>>>> minimum
>> > wage.
>> >>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>> >>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>> >>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act H.R.
>> >>>>> 3086 For more information contact:
>> >>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications National
>> >>>>> Federation of the Blind
>> >>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org To
>> >>>>> cosponsor the bill, contact:
>> >>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>> >>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>> >>>>> -OR-
>> >>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>> >>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov Voice of
>> >>>>> the Nation's Blind Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's
>> >>>>> convention, there was a "do
>> > not
>> >>>>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset, and
>> >>>>> proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future of
>> >>>>> the BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try,
>> >>>>> once I can afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
>> >>>>> Thanks for reading.
>> >>>>> Mike.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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