[nfb-talk] mistake made in jury duty pool; would like advice

Fri Mar 30 00:25:04 UTC 2012

Ray,

 I recall you mentioning before on either this list or the Blind 
Talk list that you have an iPhone.  Would there be an app out 
there for the iPhone which would solve this problem? I recall 
reading something about an OCR app for iOS; this would probably 
solve the problem.  Also, if you don't have to read a document 
"on the spot" (in other words, you can take it home with you and 
read it,) you may be able to scan it using a program such as 
Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook.  Just some suggestions!

Chris Nusbaum

Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
 sent: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:53:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] mistake made in jury duty pool; would 
like advice

mailing is not at all an option.  Remember, we're talking about 
documentation presented during the trial.  No way they're going 
to take the chance of mailing that.  You have to remember that in 
order to gain access to that stuff, you must be sworn to the 
trial.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1

On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:

 Ray, here's the deal!
 If you could have the doccumentation E-mailed to you, you could 
read
 it in Braille, if you have a notetaker, with a Braille display, 
or you
 could Braille it out, with an embosser, if you have one.
 I'd prefer not to do the whole jury thing, based on the visual 
questions.
 I could do civil cases, but stuff like murder trials, where 
everything
 is visual, I wouldn't even do it!
 JMHO!
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 3/27/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
 Frankly, I feel like shit.  I really screwed up.  I won't bore 
y'all with
 every detail of what happened; but, it boils down to this.

 	The judge started asking question, and everything was going 
well.  Then, he
 asked if we could all read and write the English language.  
Here's where I
 fucked up.  YOu see, if your answer was yes, you kept your hand 
down;  if
 no, you raised it.  forgetting that for the moment, I raised my 
hand.  The
 judge then confirmed that I was blind and had counsel approach.  
I was then
 dismissed.  didn't even get a chance to explain how I could 
handle stuff.
 So, I tried to save the situation by having it officially 
entered in to the
 court records that I wished for my name to remain in the 
potential jury pool
 for next summons.  My only recourse, now, as I see it, is to 
write the judge
 a letter explaining how I would deal with things like that as a 
blind
 person.  When I said to the judge, "I want to make it clear that 
I do NOT
 want to have my name removed from the potential jury pool!", the 
judge said,
 	"I will certainly not have your name removed.  I wish more 
people had your
 attitude.".
 	that's why a well written print or typed letter might, I 
feel, make an
 impression on the mind of the judge.  e-mail will just simply 
not do; and, a
 phone call would be even worse.  What I would like to know is 
this.  Given
 the circumstances, such things as the KNFB reader are just not 
feasible
 because I don't have nor can afford one.  Human readers seem 
doubtful
 because one would have to be sworn to the trial before dealing 
with
 documentation and other visual evidence.  Would it be possible 
for other
 blind people who have successfully served on juries before give 
me advice on
 what I can do to convince the judge of our competence?  I 
suspect that with
 the right approach, the judge might be willing to consider what 
I have to
 say.  It seems that it always hangs on the visual question.

 So, there's my sucky day.

 Oh if only I had kept my damn hand down!!

 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 Skype name:
 barefootedray

 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1

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