[nfb-talk] language discussion

Tue Jul 23 02:14:16 UTC 2013

The amount of use they would get, and their usefullness just wouldn't 
justify the cost.

Dave

At 08:35 PM 7/22/2013, you wrote:
>Why?
>
>Anna E Givens
>
>On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>
> > They're impractical.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Givens
> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 5:14 PM
> > To: mike at michaelhingson.com; NFB Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] language discussion
> >
> > I don't know much about it, but it is an interesting idea.  It 
> might be nice
> > to have signs that blind people can read.  Sighted people get them, why
> > don't we?
> >
> > Anna E Givens
> >
> > On Jul 22, 2013, at 6:25 PM, "Michael Hingson" <Mike at michaelhingson.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ah, but you'd be surprised how different wording is in different
> > countries.
> >> I have never heard Australians say "orientated", but I guess it is
> > possible.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Prows,
> >> Bennett (HHS/OCR)
> >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:49 PM
> >> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trial for signs
> > in
> >> Australia
> >>
> >> Pet Peeve, ... orientate is not a word.  One would be oriented, or would
> > get
> >> oriented, orient him/herself to the surroundings, , but never orientated.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
> >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:38 PM
> >> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trial for signs
> > in
> >> Australia
> >>
> >> I have never seen a street sign, are they on the same pole as a light
> > pole?
> >> That would be most entertaining.
> >>
> >> Original message:
> >>> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >>> The following article was sent to me by a friend. Maybe the local
> >>> county government is considering placing Braille signage for street
> > signs.
> >>
> >>> I would like to know the federation thoughts on this topic.
> >>
> >>> Yasmin Reyazuddin
> >>> Aging & Disability Services
> >>> Montgomery County Government
> >>> Department of Health & Human Services
> >>> 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
> >>> Rockville MD 20850
> >>> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> >>> 240-777-1556 (personal)
> >>> 240-777-1495 (fax)
> >>> office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> >>> Languages English, Hindi, Urdu, Braille
> >>
> >>> This message may contain protected health information or other
> >>> information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the
> >>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by return mail and
> >>> destroy any copies of this material.
> >>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> http://www.guidedogs.com.au/news-and-events/news/20-06-2013/sydneyside
> >>> rs -with-impaired-vision-to-trial-new-braille-street-signs
> >>
> >>> Top of Form
> >>
> >>> Sydneysiders with impaired vision to trial new Braille street signs
> >>
> >>> 20 June, 2013
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Walking around Sydney can be easy if you can see to read the street
> >>> signs, but imagine how you'd go if you were blind or vision impaired?
> >>
> >>> With the incidence of vision loss increasing, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT has
> >>> welcomed a City of Sydney initiative to trial Braille and tactile
> >>> street signs that provide people who are blind or vision impaired with
> >>> information on where they are.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Today, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT clients who use guide dogs or long canes to
> >>> help them get around will participate in the trial at Circular Quay.
> >>> It will involve them testing and providing feedback on the legibility
> >>> of prototype street signs that provide location information in Braille
> >>> and tactile raised lettering.
> >>
> >>> Guide Dogs NSW/ACT clients and Community Education staff have played a
> >>> key role in the City of Sydney's consultation process on the
> >>> development of the new Braille and tactile street signs, which will
> >>> replace existing signage that has worn-out from use since they were
> >>> installed in the 1990s.
> >>
> >>> "The trial will ensure that the best possible Braille and tactile
> >>> street sign products and designs are used so that people who are blind
> >>> or vision impaired can easily and independently access the City of
> >> Sydney,"
> >>> says Jennifer Moon, Community Education Coordinator for Guide Dogs
> >>> NSW/ACT.
> >>
> >>> "The Braille and tactile street signs are an important enhancement to
> >>> the specialized work our Orientation and Mobility Instructors do. They
> >>> provide training to people with impaired vision that enables them to
> >>> move around their environments safely and on their own."
> >>
> >>> After the trial, it is proposed that a new network of Braille and
> >>> tactile street signs will be placed next to pedestrian crossing
> >>> buttons on traffic light poles through the CBD. They aim to give
> >>> pedestrians with vision loss the confidence that they will be able to
> >> 'orientate'
> >>> themselves throughout their journey and at their destination.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Guide dog handler Nicole Holmes (pictured above), who has been part of
> >>> the consultation process, knows only too well how important it is to
> >>> have the right Braille and tactile street signs in place.
> >>
> >>> "The ability to identify my location or where I am in such a busy city
> >>> like Sydney most importantly eases my stress while I'm trying to
> >>> negotiate the environment," says Nicole, whose vision is impaired due
> >>> to Retinopathy of Prematurity.
> >>
> >>> "Braille and tactile signage is also useful in reassuring me that I am
> >>> heading in the right direction to my destination so it complements the
> >>> assistance that I get from my long cane or guide dog. I'm really
> >>> pleased that the City of Sydney is trialing the Braille street signs
> >>> because as vision impairment can differ between people, we need to
> >>> make sure the end product will be useful for as many people with
> >>> vision impairment as possible."
> >>
> >>> Research predicts that the number of people in NSW and the ACT aged
> >>> over
> >>> 40 with impaired vision is set to rise to 100,000 by 2020 .
> >>
> >>> Each year, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT provides free services to almost 4,000
> >>> people of all ages and with any degree of vision loss that might
> >>> impact their ability to get around independently.
> >>
> >>> For more information about Guide Dogs NSW/Act's free services visit
> >>> www.guidedogs.com.au or call 1800 804 805.
> >>> ENDS
> >>
> >>> MEDIA: Please contact: Sally Edgar, 0413 753 241 or
> >>> media at guidedogs.com.au
> >>
> >>> ABOUT GUIDE DOGS NSW/ACT
> >>> Guide Dogs NSW/ACT is the leading provider of guide dogs and
> >>> orientation and mobility services to enable people with impaired
> >>> vision to get around their communities independently. Services include
> >>> providing training and aids including long canes, guide dogs and
> >>> electronic travel devices such as talking GPS technology. . Visit
> >>> www.guidedogs.com.au, call 1800 804 805, or follow us on Facebook
> >>> <http://www.facebook.com/guidedogsnswact?ref=hl>  or Twitter
> >>> <https://twitter.com/GuideDogsNSWACT> .
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