[nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!

Sun Nov 17 19:45:04 UTC 2013

Better said than I Mike. I am in full aggreement with you! And, our dogs are 
better than some of our sighted guides! At least the dogs usually listen to 
us! I've had many sighted folks bang me into things and then tell me they 
didn't see them. When dogs do that they're usually more apologetic and don't 
make excuses.
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From: "Michael Hingson" <Mike at michaelhingson.com>
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>I submit that a dog user needs to use the same clues since the dog is given
> specific on-going commands by the handler.  The cane finds things the user
> has to observe and then avoid, true.  However, the issue isn't whether the
> traveler has to make a determination about every single obstacle, but 
> rather
> the issue is whether or not the traveler can use the clues around them to
> either handle the cane and walk safely or give the dog commands to 
> continue
> walking.
>
> It isn't "dependence on the dog", but rather it is working synergistically
> to accomplish a task.  A good guide dog user is JUST as independent as a
> good cane traveler.  I know, I use them both.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
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> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
> Lester
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:20 AM
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> We've discussed this on another list!
> You're more independent with a cane, because you're responsible for 
> finding
> clues, and things like that, but when you have a dog, you're depending on
> the dog's sight, to get you where you need to go.
> Blessings, Joshua
> ________________________________________
> From: nfb-talk [nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Eddie Salcido
> [rednexican at socal.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:10 AM
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> Preferably a cane?  According to whose preference and why should it matter
> to you whether someone uses a dog or a cane to get around independently?
> Isn't it enough that said hypothetical person travels about?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
> Lester
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!
>
> Correct!
> I'm proud of Mr. Carter's responses about it, but I want to know, as I
> posted before, why doesn't he use a cane or a dog?
> All of the blind boys are putting their hands on the shoulders of the
> sighted guys in the band, so they can be led on stage!
> #1, that's empropper sighted guide, and #2, they need to use a cane, or a
> dog, but preferably a cane, to get around!
> Blessings, Joshua
> ________________________________________
> From: nfb-talk [nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Mark Tardif
> [markspark at roadrunner.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:46 PM
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> All I will say is that racism should be considered ridiculous and stupid
> regardless of whether one is blind or dighted.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:13 PM
> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!
>
> Two nights ago, my friends, the Blind Boys of Alabama were guests on 
> Stephen
> Colbert's show on Commedy Central.
> Colbert had the nerve to ask Jimmy Carter, (the leader of the group,) a
> stupid question.
> "As a blind person, does racism seem ridiculous to you, since you can't 
> tell
> what race somebody is?"
> What's next?
> Not only is the question offensive from a racial standpoint, but it's
> offensive from the blindness perspective!
> I would have asked to have my group removed from the show, but Jimmy
> educated Mr. Colbert, and handled it with grace!
> There's a link to this ignorance on the group's Twitter page.
> http://www.twitter.com/blindboys
> Blessings, Joshua
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