[nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!

Mark Tardif markspark at roadrunner.com
Sun Nov 17 21:38:48 UTC 2013


I remember a whole issue of the Monitor back in 1995 which was devoted to 
dogs versus canes.  For my own reasons I choose to use a cane, a very long 
white cane, I might add, but some people who work with dog guides will tell 
you that they actually feel more independent with a dog, they move very 
quickly, there is less manipulation of the environment, etc.  I have come to 
believe that this is a matter of personal choice, but with certain 
conditions attached.  The big condition here, for me, is that if you work 
with a dog, you still need to have your basic mobility skills, and that 
certainly includes the ability to use a cane when you need to do so.  Also I 
would add that you and the dog are a team, but you are the captain of that 
team.  In other words, even with a dog, you need to be the one to decide 
things like when it is safe to cross a street, how you are going to get to a 
certain location, where to stand when waiting for a bus, all of those 
things.  So with a guide dog, you are exercising independence every bit as 
much as you would with a cane, but you are exercising it in a somewhat 
different way.  Just my opinion.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:20 PM
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We've discussed this on another list!
You're more independent with a cane, because you're responsible for finding 
clues, and things like that, but when you have a dog, you're depending on 
the dog's sight, to get you where you need to go.
Blessings, Joshua
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From: nfb-talk [nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Eddie Salcido 
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Preferably a cane?  According to whose preference and why should it matter
to you whether someone uses a dog or a cane to get around independently?
Isn't it enough that said hypothetical person travels about?

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
Lester
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:17 PM
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Correct!
I'm proud of Mr. Carter's responses about it, but I want to know, as I
posted before, why doesn't he use a cane or a dog?
All of the blind boys are putting their hands on the shoulders of the
sighted guys in the band, so they can be led on stage!
#1, that's empropper sighted guide, and #2, they need to use a cane, or a
dog, but preferably a cane, to get around!
Blessings, Joshua
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From: nfb-talk [nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Mark Tardif
[markspark at roadrunner.com]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:46 PM
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All I will say is that racism should be considered ridiculous and stupid
regardless of whether one is blind or dighted.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:13 PM
To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!

Two nights ago, my friends, the Blind Boys of Alabama were guests on Stephen
Colbert's show on Commedy Central.
Colbert had the nerve to ask Jimmy Carter, (the leader of the group,) a
stupid question.
"As a blind person, does racism seem ridiculous to you, since you can't tell
what race somebody is?"
What's next?
Not only is the question offensive from a racial standpoint, but it's
offensive from the blindness perspective!
I would have asked to have my group removed from the show, but Jimmy
educated Mr. Colbert, and handled it with grace!
There's a link to this ignorance on the group's Twitter page.
http://www.twitter.com/blindboys
Blessings, Joshua
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