[nfb-talk] Ideas up to speed? and defending myself

Tue Jul 8 21:15:43 UTC 2014

I believe he is from Mexico.
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From: "blindcowgirl1993--- via nfb-talk" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforet7706 at comcast.net>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Ideas up to speed? and defending myself


> While I do not agree with the concept of group therapy for the blind or 
> their families, I do agree that what the center that you were working with 
> said and did was very wrong. Here in the NFB, we are a very large family. 
> I have believed that ever since I attended my first national convention 
> Where are you from? Perhaps someone on this list can help you find a local 
> chapter.in 2011.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr via nfb-talk 
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Okay,  in the first place, you can get rid of the group therapy.  Why? 
>> Simple.  Group therapy assumes that the blind are inferior and need 
>> therapy because of blindness.  We don't.  To me, it sounds like maybe you 
>> might want to look to see if there's an organization like the NFB where 
>> you are.  Look hard enough, and I dare say you'll find some who think as 
>> we do here.  Get together with them and form an asociation so that way 
>> all of y'all can move forward together.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Gerardo Corripio via nfb-talk 
>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> HI guys
>>> I'm kind of curious as to if my ideas are up to basics? Can't figure out 
>>> why I didn't feel belonged in the local blindness association! thus here 
>>> they are for feedback, on how or what a blindness association would be:
>>> Aside learning the basics of Braille, O&M Daily living skills etc, I 
>>> feel very very strongly that they should have some sort of group therapy 
>>> or equivalent, both for the blind people, but also for the family! The 
>>> family (yes I understand sometimes unconsciously) are why some blind 
>>> people, even with the blindness skills in check, don't get out! This 
>>> fear transmits to the blind person, thus you know what I mean? hard as I 
>>> tried proposing the idea of group therapy/Psychology, I was met with 
>>> "that's not in the project", or "the people don't want that" etc etc.
>>> Also for fund raising, ideas that reflect the real abilities of the 
>>> blind are important: I say this because in the blindness association, 
>>> they wanted me to participate in ridiculous fund raising activities like 
>>> going to the local market and selling used clothes, or standing around 
>>> in the square or main plaza, selling stuffed apples? I felt brave and 
>>> told the Association "OK if you want to foment real blindness 
>>> abilabilities, but keep on fomenting sterotypes? that's kind of not 
>>> congruent!" and yes this comment wasn't taken as I'd like, causing the 
>>> problems that lead to leaving the association. I have many abilities 
>>> (especially since I studied Educational Psychology) and hard as I tried 
>>> to offer myself in helping in tasks like checking/evaluating the course 
>>> work of Braille, Computers etc., or giving English classes, no luck! I 
>>> was met with "no we don't need any help" and I thought well so what am I 
>>> good for then?
>>> As background and I don't mean to sound like I'm a know it all when I 
>>> say that I manage my Twitter account, record Psychology/technology 
>>> podcasts, have two blogs, thus offering myself to help in any of these 
>>> for the Association, but was met with the same resistance of we don't 
>>> need any help, but imagine weeks later a Twitter account was opened, and 
>>> a sighted Psychologist was found? Don't they believe then in abilities 
>>> of blind people? Do they seem to have preferences in getting their 
>>> friends to enter, leaving out average blind people? I just don't 
>>> understand the message this association wants to transmit! Hopefully the 
>>> NFB isn't like that! As you see I ended up pretty traumatized by this 
>>> experience, and wanted to get your feedback on this subject, and maybe 
>>> if I did something wrong, or if I did the right things in standing up 
>>> for myself?
>>> Imagine the comment of the association of "we want to better the quality 
>>> of life here in Tampico, but this (used a bad word) wants to bring us 
>>> down? how did you think I felt? and these were supposedly my friends? 
>>> Wow!
>>> ON your speeches, I hear frequently how you guys in the NFB are a 
>>> family? Well here in the blindness association, I never felt like I 
>>> belonged; I felt like the left out, like the superior one etc etc; I 
>>> never felt like we had the same ideas, and especially I felt betrayed 
>>> because as they put it before this started, they'd start afresh with 
>>> electing a new board of directors, and again don't mean to sound like a 
>>> know it all, but deep deep down; I feel I deserved being on the board 
>>> especially because I feel my ideas if put right, might revolutionize the 
>>> blind; what did I find when going to the first meeting? the board had 
>>> already been elected, thus resurrecting an old association; they had 
>>> these pretty neat projects of bringing in specialized blind 
>>> Psychologists etc etc., when my thoughts were OK isn't the goal of a 
>>> blindness association work with what it'is here? Go figure! What do you 
>>> guys make out of this then? Am I right and are they wrong? or vice versa 
>>> are they wrong and am I right? Thanks for feedback. Again my dreams of 
>>> trying to help the blind here are very strong!
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Enviado desde mi lap
>>> Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
>>> Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
>>> RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM 
>>> México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!
>>>
>>>
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