[nfb-talk] Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act

[Buddy Brannan]

Similar does not mean the same as. I, for one, would like to see what the differences are, and what the implications of said differences would be.

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> On Mar 31, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Loren Wakefield via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> And what would one say to the idea that the language here is similar to that
> Which was passed by congress and signed by Bill Clinton?  
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Hingson via nfb-talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:27 PM
> To: 'Paul Wick'; 'NFB Talk Mailing List'; 'John Heim'
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act
> 
> However, this might well become another case for the courts to address which
> does in fact set back our rights. If one case occurs where a blind person
> with a guide dog is denied access on religious grounds and the Indiana law
> is cited as the reason for denial then we have already lost ground. No, such
> an open ended law cannot stand. 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Michael Hingson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wick
> via nfb-talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 12:33 PM
> To: John Heim; NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> The reason that this law can't be used against blind people or racial/ethnic
> minorities is because those are classes already protected by Indiana law
> against discrimination. The whole issue with this law is that in Indiana GL
> BT people are not a legislatively a protected class. It has been the NFB
> position since at least the 1970s not to take positions on issues not
> directly effecting blind people as a group. Besides, the large numbers of
> Mormons and born-again Christian's in the Federation make such a discussion
> unlikely.
> Best,
> Paul
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:11 PM, John Heim via nfb-talk 
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The NFB should issue a statement condemning Indiana's religious 
>> freedom
> act.
>> 
>> I've been discriminated against in my life. I once was  turned down 
>> for a
> job because the person who did the interview literally would not believe
> that a blind person could use a computer. I'd been working as a programmer
> and systems administrator for 15 years at that point. Another time, I
> actually diagnosed a network problem during the job interview. I plugged my
> laptop into the network, ran some diagnostics, and explained what the
> problem was right there during the interview. But I didn't get that job
> either because they said part of the job was drawing images for their web
> site. Admittedly, It's debatable whether that second example is
> discrimination. In fact, I personally would not call it discrimination but
> people I've mentioned it to have felt otherwise. The point is that I know
> what it's like being turned down for a job because of something you can't
> control.  I know what it's like when that happens to you when you're worried
> about having health insurance for your family and making the house payment.
>> 
>> I remember coming home from the job interview where I diagnosed the
> network problem, dancing around and telling my wife I'd nailed it. I
> remember the feeling I got a few days later when she read me the rejection
> letter that said they really needed someone who could see. I said it was
> their loss and tried to believe it. But we really needed our health
> insurance.
>> 
>> Now you have a bunch of lawmakers in Indiana telling us it's okay for
> someone to turn a person down for a job because they're in a gay marriage.
> Most of those lawmakers in Indiana have probably never been discriminated
> against in their lives. They don't know what it's like.
>> 
>> What they are doing is just wrong. And even if you don't agree, we in 
>> the
> NFB need to stand  up against discrimination in all of it's forms. This law
> is intended for use against gays but there's no reason it can't be used
> against racial minorities or even disabled people.
>> 
>> We have to add our voices to those who have come out against this law.
> It's the right thing to do.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> John Heim
>> john at johnheim.com
>> 
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