[nfb-talk] NFB beginnings

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On 8/8/17, adrijana prokopenko via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Think you don't understand what I mean. This doesn't invade privacy,
> if someone belongs to a blindness organization, they do it by choice,
> no one forces them to do anything. as for other places, Steve is
> right, many blind people apply for social security and besides, we
> usually go to the same place for eye examinations and some end up
> meeting others there!
>
> On 8/9/17, steve.jacobson--- via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> You may not know this, but many states in the United States had registers
>> of
>> blind persons.  Some states that had laws requiring that docturs notify
>> certain officials if someone became legally blind that the state agency
>> be
>> notified.  In addition, in many states, blind people who owned houses got
>> a
>> very large discount on their property taxes through a homested exemption.
>> These exemptions were available to the public.  Some of this has changed
>> recently, but I would not be surprised if some of those laws were on the
>> books.  I do not know if the laws required a consent form or not.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star
>> Gazer
>> via nfb-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:54 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List' <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB beginnings
>>
>> 					Interesting. Why would they want to
>> be registered? How does it help them?
>> Maybe it's how you worded it, or how I took it to mean, but I'd find it a
>> huge invasion of privacy if I was "from somewhere else and known to be
>> blind" and some how got registered without my express consent.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of adrijana
>> prokopenko via nfb-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 2:39 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB beginnings
>>
>> Registered means that they belong to the macedonian association of the
>> blind
>> or are known to be blind from somewhere else.
>>
>> On 8/8/17, Star Gazer via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 				Registered? What does this mean exactly?
>>> And, what do you mean by active? I'm active, just not in blindness
>>> related stuff. I may do it at some point, though now I am doing other
>>> things
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> adrijana prokopenko via nfb-talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:41 AM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB beginnings
>>>
>>> My city is about a half of a million people. There are around 700
>>> blind people living here that are registered, but only around 50 are
>>> more
>> active.
>>>
>>> On 8/8/17, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo via nfb-talk
>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> call n f b. go to to a chapter meeting near u. 4 a list of chapters
>>>> go to http://www.nfb.org or call 410-659-9314 ok? please go 2nfb
>>>> conventions a list is on www.nfb.org/conventions or convention good
>>>> luck on joyning the nfb live the life you want blindness is not what
>>>> holds you back!
>>>>
>>>> On 8/8/17, Jack Heim via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I don't intend this as a criticism of what you are saying, Star
>>>>> Gazer, but I would very much encourage people to attend local
>>>>> chapter
>>> meetings.
>>>>> I can't tell you how surprising it is for me, personally, to find
>>>>> myself writing that. I used to think I had no reason to go to the
>>>>> local chapter meetings because I'm not a blind person. I am a person
>>>>> who happens to be blind. So why would I  want to hang out with other
>>>>> blind people? As it turns out that attending the local chapter
>>>>> meetings
>>> has a lot to offer:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Energy: Everyone struggles with blindness from time to time. I
>>>>> have found it refreshing to be around people who are as imperfect as
>>>>> I am and yet deal with these problems every day. The strength I've
>>>>> seen in others has made me stronger.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Mentoring: People who have recently lost their vision can benefit
>>>>> a great deal just by being around others who havn't let their
>>>>> blindness change their life significantly. I don't think you even
>>>>> have to take an active mentoring role. Just talking about your job,
>>>>> your family, your hobbies, how you exercise -- all those things show
>>>>> a newly blind person that life can be pretty normal.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Information: I've learned a lot of adaptive techniques from my
>>>>> friends at the local chapter. We compare guide dogs, guide dog
>>>>> schools, canes, methods for learning braille, all kinds of things.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Socialization.: Honestly, it's just a really fun group of people.
>>>>> We are planning on renting paddle boats a week from Saturday. I just
>>>>> know with that group, it is going to be a blast.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Advocacy: First of all, there are important local issues your NFB
>>>>> chapter might deal with. Secondly, the NFB's policies start at the
>>>>> base.
>>>>> The people at your local NFB chapter are the ones who will be going
>>>>> to the NFB convention and voting on resolutions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/08/2017 08:23 AM, Star Gazer via nfb-talk wrote:
>>>>>> 			Hi. Have you found others that agree with you? Do
>>> they want to
>>>>>> get involved and make the sort of changes you do? Can they in the
>>>>>> sense that do they have commitments and/or lifestyles that would
>>>>>> make what you are proposing difficult?
>>>>>> At this point in my life, meetings are the last thing I want to do.
>>>>>> That will probably change, but now my focus is on my kids and
>>>>>> husband.
>>>>>> Your first step is finding others that are agree with you and then
>>>>>> finding ways they can get involved that work for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> adrijana prokopenko via nfb-talk
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:10 AM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB beginnings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I live in a small country and the blind people are all scattered
>>>>>> around.
>>>>>> There is a state blindness association, but I think time came for
>>>>>> us to do something different. it proves hard because for many
>>>>>> transportation and financial matters are a problem to keep meeting
>>>>>> others more often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/8/17, Star Gazer via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 			I haven't read NFB's book.
>>>>>>> Some you may enjoy are My Eyes Have A Cold Nose And Meet My Girls.
>>>>>>> Both involve dog users, but the take-away at least for me is that
>>>>>>> like with all things, those who have the will and the support
>>>>>>> network and the good timing to be born at the right time can do
>>>>>>> just about anything. Get enough of those people together and
>>>>>>> change
>>> happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Ringlein, Ellen via nfb-talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:24 AM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Ringlein, Ellen <ERinglein at nfb.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB beginnings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adrijana,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may find it interesting to read part or all of the book
>>>>>>> Walking Alone and Marching Together, which covers the first fifty
>>>>>>> years of NFB
>>>>>> history.
>>>>>>> Here are link to the book online.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTML version:
>>>>>>> https://nfb.org/Images/nfb/Publications/books/books1/wamtc.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Audio version
>>>>>>> https://nfb.org/WAMT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ellen
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> adrijana prokopenko via nfb-talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 5:19 AM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] NFB beginnings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Wondering if anyone here has ever been in contact with the NFB
>>>>>>> founders or anyone else who was greatly involved since the
>>>>>>> Federation's beginnings and how it all started? I found the basics
>>>>>>> on the NFB site, but I am getting to wonder what things were like
>>>>>>> then for the blind on a daily basis, how it was that they could
>>>>>>> meet and hold meetings and make arrangements of all kinds at that
>>>>>>> time when orientation and mobility and other blindness skills were
>>>>>>> not much known or taught to the blind. I am sure that the founders
>>>>>>> and others who were involved have already proved themselves and
>>>>>>> their abilities, but I guess it is always nice to hear stories of
>>>>>>> all kinds that may lead someone somewhere. Not everywhere in the
>>>>>>> world the blind have equal opportunities and I hope it would be of
>>>>>>> help
>>> to some of us.
>>>>>>>
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