[nfb-talk] Wanting to See

[Jen]

Where does the designated driver come in? lol

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It is great to have an imagination and I applaud yours. If I would have come
up with a fictional story like the one that you explained, I don't think
that it would have been tang that we would have drank too much of, LOL.

Walter

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I, too, have a vivid imagination. I make up never-ending stories in my head,
all of the details being nonvisual ones. I even wrote one of my stories down
once; in it, I was the first blind astronaut, and my crew and I drank way
too much Tang while looking for life forms. We would have found a human-like
civilization in space, except I got bored of my story and threw it out. I
really regret doing that and can't get the inspiration or ideas back I had
for it.

Jen

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Hi Jen,

I agree with you, but there are so many things that we could apply to each
category. Just like you, I utilize what I call my third eye in several
different situations. Most of the time, I see things in a more precise way
do to my vivid imagination. It may not be what others see with their natural
eyes, but it is what I see now and I have learned to follow the
determination that it provides.

Living the dream, by raising expectations!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
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Hi Walter,

On the "blessing" side, I think one of the advantages of blindness is being
unable to judge someone by their looks. Also, I think the way I see things
in my mind's eye is more vivid than that of a sighted person. About your
"carnage" comment, I'm glad I couldn't see what was happening on September
11, 2001.

On the "curse" side, the problem of low expectations is still too frequent,
especially with employment, with seventy percent of working-age blind people
unemployed.

Jen

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I have been following this string of messages, but the reply below
encouraged me to reply. I am my own worst critic and greatest fan. I see
perfection in some areas in my life and imperfection in other areas. With
that, I believe blindness is as Tony Shelub, the star of the show "Monk,"
expressed about his condition on the show; this is a blessing and a curse.
It is a blessing for all the carnage we miss that is happening on a daily
basis in the world and a curse when the people look at us as incompetent and
dependant on their sight and intellect.

Yes, it would be great to have my sight back, but the most high has ordained
it to be different from what I want. I have accepted the fact and have moved
on with the help of the NFB and people like each of you. We all have
different opinions of what could or should be, but we all have had a big
gulp of reality. I pray for each of your, peace and safety.

Living the dream, by raising expectations!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter, Diabetes Action Network Ohio
Coordinator, NFB NEWSLINE Registered Ohio
 (513) 582-8606 Mobil
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Perfection isn't really something that is the same for everyone. I'm pretty
perfect to myself, for example. If we see ourselves with blimishes and
imperfections, we won't be able to see the amazing things about ourselves.

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On January 6, 2017 7:27:57 PM John Heim via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> I, fortunately, am perfect except for the fact that I am blind.
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> On 01/06/2017 07:08 PM, Devin Prater via nfb-talk wrote:
>> I think it's mostly about how you view yourself. I'm fat, at around 
>> 235 pounds, and have been blind since birth. I accept both my big 
>> belly, and blind eyes, so I don't worry about either, which leads to 
>> much less stress on that front.
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>> On January 6, 2017 6:52:28 PM John Heim via nfb-talk 
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Hey, I didn't insert the word "defective" into this debate. My point 
>>> has been that you can even say I am defective and it means nothing to
me.
>>> Defective, disabled, handicapped -- I don't care.
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>>> On 01/06/2017 06:43 PM, kaye zimpher via nfb-talk wrote:
>>>> First I want to say, that having read the original post, I am 
>>>> wondering how we got from "are feelings normal" to "we are all
defective morons."
>>>> Well, John didn't say moron, that was a joke, but that is just to 
>>>> say it has stretched the topic a bit. But enough of that, now on to 
>>>> my response to Jen.
>>>> Personally, I too have been blind from birth. I actually can't 
>>>> remember a time that I ever wanted to see. There was a time, when I 
>>>> was much younger that I did not accept myself, or my place in life, 
>>>> but as I got older, and realized a few things, I have grown to love 
>>>> my life as a blind person.
>>>> I have found that many of the things that people "wish they could see,"
>>>> I already have a basis for in my mind, and like you, I don't want 
>>>> to ruin that. I am a perfectly capable person, and I would not 
>>>> want, at the age of 46, to take the time to truly relearn life. 
>>>> Also, and here's where many may disagree, I am a believer in God, 
>>>> and I truly believe that He made me this way for his reasons. It is 
>>>> upon me to accept those reasons and live the life He asks of me.
>>>> I've been asked before if I feel that God will heel me. I usually 
>>>> say that if he sees the need, he definitely has the power, but I 
>>>> believe this is exactly who he wants me to be. Why would I challenge
that?
>>>> When it comes to conveniences, I feel that much of what a sighted 
>>>> person does, I also do. Have you ever lived in New York? Nobody 
>>>> there drives, they all take the subway or cab, or now Uber, so how 
>>>> is that different from me? I watch TV, I listen to books, and while 
>>>> many sighted folks don't listen to audio books, some do. I cook, 
>>>> clean, work, complain about my relationship, my job and the state 
>>>> of the world, and I crave snack foods when I'm dieting. *smile* So 
>>>> having said all this, I find my life to basically be the same as
everyone else's.
>>>> As for whether or not your feelings are normal. They are your 
>>>> feelings, so they are your normal. Only you can feel the way you 
>>>> do, and noone can take it away or tell you not to. It is all in how 
>>>> you deal with those feelings that matters.
>>>> Sorry for the long post. Everyone have a great weekend.
>>>> Kaye in Jacksonville Florida, where it is *not* snowing!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jen via nfb-talk"
>>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Jen" <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 8:30 PM
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Wanting to See
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I posted on my "driverless cars" thread, I'm totally blind from 
>>>>> birth.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have always been interested in visual things. They include
>>>>>
>>>>> * pictures, especially pictures of pictures
>>>>> * colors
>>>>> * the sky
>>>>> * videos
>>>>> * light and the various ways it can be manipulated, like with 
>>>>> shadows and optical illusions
>>>>> * rainbows
>>>>>
>>>>> ... and so many others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now here's my question. I wish I could see sometimes. Is this 
>>>>> normal for a blind person? I'm not consumed by these feelings. I 
>>>>> don't feel sorry for myself for being blind, and I have 
>>>>> incorporated alternative techniques into my life. So personally, I 
>>>>> consider myself as a well-adjusted blind person.
>>>>> At the same time though, I wouldn't want my sight back because, 
>>>>> since I've never had it, everything would be too much clutter for 
>>>>> me. Also, I have my own pictures of visual things in my mind's 
>>>>> eye, and I wouldn't want to ruin them.
>>>>>
>>>>> My family and friends, who are sighted, tell me it is normal to 
>>>>> have these feelings. But it would be great to get some feedback 
>>>>> from my fellow Federationists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
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