[nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?

[Karen Rose]

I don't disagree but the question is what do we do so that we are not exterminated by the wealthy

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> On Jun 26, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Mark Tardif via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I hate to say this, but whether we think so or not, our chief value in our society is money.  It is unfortunate, but that appears to be the case.  Good health care does appear to be the right of the most wealthy.  It's one of the many ways in which we are quite primitive and frankly underdeveloped compared to the rest of the Western world.  Money is what matters.  Like I said, it's unfortunate, but that appears to be the case.
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> -----Original Message----- From: Karen Rose via nfb-talk
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> So if we who are working plus the government do not pay for it then who will? What happens to those who cannot afford to pay for it? Is healthcare only the right of those who are wealthy? Or a human right for everyone
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>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Loren Wakefield via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> It probably is not the place for it.  However, since you aksed, the real question is not if healthcare is a humany right; rather, the question should be, should or should not the government pay for it.  And that is way out of the bounds of this list in my humble opinion.  But it is a very interesting topic.
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>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Heim via nfb-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:26 PM
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>> Paul Ryan is a fan of Ayn Rand  and Rand Paul was named after her. So I don't think they are going to be swayed by anything the United Nations says. That might actually work against it.  And I am not sure it is possible to carry on a philosophical debate on this list but I'd be interested in hearing what the conservatives on this list say. Is health care a human right?
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>>> On 06/25/2017 07:47 PM, Jen via nfb-talk wrote:
>>> Hi Karen,
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>>> I feel compelled to add to your message, with which I absolutely agree. In the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, health care is stated as a huam right. I can pull up that part of the UCHR if you want. Personally, I feel health care is a human right.
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>>> Jen
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>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karen
>>> Rose via nfb-talk
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>>> Cc: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
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>>> I think the issue here is whether healthcare, not health insurance, is a right or a privilege. When we talk about our right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, doesn't that include the right to visit a doctor when needed and thus to remain alive? If so then we need Medicare for all in the country from the time we are born to the time we die.
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>>>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Jack Heim via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>> Ray, you need to learn to con
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